Re: [rtcweb] ICE-Mismatch and WebRTC
Emil Ivov <emcho@jitsi.org> Fri, 11 July 2014 17:44 UTC
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Subject: Re: [rtcweb] ICE-Mismatch and WebRTC
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On 11.07.14, 18:07, Justin Uberti wrote: > The fact that WebRTC implementations MUST ignore the address and port in > the c=/m= lines will be written into JSEP, S 5.6/5.7. MUST sounds unnecessarily strong here. Imagine Alice's WebRTC client sends offer: ... c=IN IP4 *192.168.0.1* t=0 0 a=ice-pwd:asd88fgpdd777uzjYhagZg a=ice-ufrag:8hhY a=ice-options:trickle m=audio 5000 RTP/AVP 0 a=candidate:1 1 UDP 2130706431 *192.168.0.1* 5000 typ host ... and then Bob's browser gets ... c=IN IP4 *87.65.43.21* t=0 0 a=ice-pwd:asd88fgpdd777uzjYhagZg a=ice-ufrag:8hhY a=ice-options:trickle m=audio 2626 RTP/AVP 0 a=candidate:1 1 UDP 2130706431 *192.168.0.1* 5000 typ host ... Don't you think Bob's browser has a pretty good reason to reject the offer because chances are the call would fail anyway? Emil > > On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 1:04 PM, Emil Ivov <emcho@jitsi.org > <mailto:emcho@jitsi.org>> wrote: > > On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 9:04 PM, Roman Shpount <roman@telurix.com > <mailto:roman@telurix.com>> wrote: > > On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 12:33 PM, Emil Ivov <emcho@jitsi.org > <mailto:emcho@jitsi.org>> wrote: > >> > >> On 07.07.14, 21:48, Roman Shpount wrote: > >>> > >>> Is it possible to run into ICE-Mismatch with WebRTC? Should we > specify > >>> that default candidate (c= and m= line based candidate) should be > >>> ignored and thus mismatch check should not be performed? > >> > >> > >> I guess running into an ICE mismatch with WebRTC is just as > possible as > >> with any other ICE implementation. I suppose the only difference > would be > >> that rather than falling back to 3264 semantics, WebRTC > implementations will > >> rather drop the session because without ICE, they wouldn't be > able to do > >> consent checks for it. > >> > > > > My point was that WebRTC would never use 3264 semantics > > Indeed. This was also my point. > > > and use address from > > c= and m= lines for any purpose, so why does it need to check > that this > > address is correct? Would it be more sensible just ignore > whatever value > > happen to be there? > > With the exception of trickle ICE's use of :: (or 0.0.0.0) an ICE > mismatch indicates that there is an entity on the signalling path that > is overwriting c= line addresses and m= line ports. The idea of > dropping ICE here is that the infrastructure is likely performing > Hosted NAT Traversal and latching so insisting on ICE is likely to > lead to unexpected situations. > > > Or, better yet end point can generate an error instead > > of generating a response with ice-mismatch. > > Agreed. Sending an answer with ice-mismatch means downgrading to basic > 3264 and that doesn't make sense for WebRTC. > > Agreed. > > Emil > > -- > https://jitsi.org > > _______________________________________________ > rtcweb mailing list > rtcweb@ietf.org <mailto:rtcweb@ietf.org> > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/rtcweb > > -- https://jitsi.org
- [rtcweb] ICE-Mismatch and WebRTC Roman Shpount
- Re: [rtcweb] ICE-Mismatch and WebRTC Iñaki Baz Castillo
- Re: [rtcweb] ICE-Mismatch and WebRTC Emil Ivov
- Re: [rtcweb] ICE-Mismatch and WebRTC Roman Shpount
- Re: [rtcweb] ICE-Mismatch and WebRTC Iñaki Baz Castillo
- Re: [rtcweb] ICE-Mismatch and WebRTC Emil Ivov
- Re: [rtcweb] ICE-Mismatch and WebRTC Justin Uberti
- Re: [rtcweb] ICE-Mismatch and WebRTC Iñaki Baz Castillo
- Re: [rtcweb] ICE-Mismatch and WebRTC Emil Ivov
- Re: [rtcweb] ICE-Mismatch and WebRTC Roman Shpount
- Re: [rtcweb] ICE-Mismatch and WebRTC Justin Uberti
- Re: [rtcweb] ICE-Mismatch and WebRTC Justin Uberti
- Re: [rtcweb] ICE-Mismatch and WebRTC Emil Ivov
- Re: [rtcweb] ICE-Mismatch and WebRTC Roman Shpount
- Re: [rtcweb] ICE-Mismatch and WebRTC Justin Uberti
- Re: [rtcweb] ICE-Mismatch and WebRTC Kevin Dempsey
- Re: [rtcweb] ICE-Mismatch and WebRTC Emil Ivov
- Re: [rtcweb] ICE-Mismatch and WebRTC Kevin Dempsey