Re: [rtcweb] A plea for simplicity, marketability - and... who are we designing RTCWEB for?

Iñaki Baz Castillo <ibc@aliax.net> Mon, 24 October 2011 14:20 UTC

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From: Iñaki Baz Castillo <ibc@aliax.net>
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Subject: Re: [rtcweb] A plea for simplicity, marketability - and... who are we designing RTCWEB for?
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2011/10/24 Wolfgang Beck <wolfgang.beck01@googlemail.com>:
> If a caller decides to suppress her caller ID, you'll
> just see that someone unknown called.

Why are you assuming that a RTCweb call has always a caller ID?

Imagine a web game. A visitor enters the web and automatically
receives an audio "call" from the website. The user is prompted
"website mygame.com is attempting to establish an audio call with you,
do you accept?". The user presses OK and is entered into a multiconf
with all the web users. There is NO need at all for having a
"caller-id" in this kind of call. Again I insist that RTC-Web should
not be designed *just* to cover the use cases of current VoIP
protocols.

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Iñaki Baz Castillo
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