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Re: [secdir] [Anima] Secdir last call review of draft-ietf-anima-bootstrapping-keyinfra-16

Ted Lemon <mellon@fugue.com> Tue, 02 October 2018 18:20 UTC

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Subject: Re: [secdir] [Anima] Secdir last call review of draft-ietf-anima-bootstrapping-keyinfra-16
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On Oct 2, 2018, at 8:28 AM, Eliot Lear <lear@cisco.com> wrote:
> I would be more concerned about what happens if the manufacturer goes
> out of business.  I think that's a bigger deal, but can I ask that we
> also consider that problem with some more experience under our belts?  I
> could easily envision a few solutions, but better would be to face down
> the problem with some more code and deployment.  BTW, manufacturer going
> out of business also means no more {bug fixes, security patches, h/w
> support, etc}, and so zooming in and just dealing with this may be
> suboptimal.

The manufacturer-going-out-of-business use case argues for there being a way that a person with physical access to the unit can re-key it without contacting the manufacturer.   It also argues for open source, but that's out of scope. :)

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