Re: [sidr] New Version Notification for draft-ymbk-sidr-transfer-00.txt

Andy Newton <andy@arin.net> Thu, 16 July 2015 13:18 UTC

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From: Andy Newton <andy@arin.net>
To: Stephen Kent <kent@bbn.com>
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On Jul 15, 2015, at 4:41 PM, Stephen Kent <kent@bbn.com<mailto:kent@bbn.com>> wrote:

Randy's view is that it is preferable to engineer a single solution that is agnostic
about whether the address space is in use or not, even if that is a more complex
solution. His rationale seems to be that its safer to treat all space as in use, so as
to avoid the damage to users that arises if the entity transferring the space can't
properly classify it properly.

Isn’t the “unused” scenario what we have today? Why do we need a solution for something that is already being accomplished?

-andy