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Re: [sidr] New Version Notification for draft-ymbk-sidr-transfer-00.txt

Arturo Servin <arturo.servin@gmail.com> Sat, 11 July 2015 22:18 UTC

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From: Arturo Servin <arturo.servin@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2015 22:18:04 +0000
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How would you define that address space is unused? Because it is
unannounced to the global BGP table?

Because there is not traffic to it even though is announced?

This question has come up in several policy discussion in almost every RIR,
it has never been consensus on the answer. So we should probably considered
every transfer as been in use.

The draft is a good start, thanks for writing it. As soon as I have some
time I will send some comments.

/as


On Fri, 10 Jul 2015 at 18:15 Randy Bush <randy@psg.com> wrote:

> making assumptions if and how address space is or is not used is a
> recipe for mistakes and is not really useful.
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