Re: [sidr] WGLC for draft-ietf-sidr-bgpsec-protocol-05

Christopher Morrow <morrowc.lists@gmail.com> Fri, 21 September 2012 23:14 UTC

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Subject: Re: [sidr] WGLC for draft-ietf-sidr-bgpsec-protocol-05
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On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 6:20 PM, Danny McPherson <danny@tcb.net> wrote:
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> I do not intend to review this document in it's current state and am confused how we can WG LC it while the threat and [presumably subsequent] requirements documents are still being developed by the WG.
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> I would like an explanation from the chairs regarding what the intention is here.

I believe the hope was to stir up some discussion, interest and
readers prior to the interim meeting next saturday. As with all WGLC's
perhaps this document needs to wait on something else, or isn't ready
yet, or has other considerations to deal with... or is ready to fly
like a baby birdie. we won't know without some discussion, and I
believe there will be a bunch more of that in 8 days time.

-chris

> On Sep 20, 2012, at 10:42 AM, Danny McPherson wrote:
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>>
>> Sandy,
>> I don't understand how we can WG LC this document when the requirements document isn't complete, and the requirements document isn't complete because we're still working out the threats document.
>>
>> Can you explain the logic here?
>>
>> -danny
>>
>> On Sep 15, 2012, at 7:45 AM, Murphy, Sandra wrote:
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>>> This starts a working group last call for draft-ietf-sidr-bgpsec-protocol-05.  The draft is available at http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-sidr-bgpsec-protocol-05 and https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-sidr-bgpsec-protocol/
>>>
>>> Please review this draft to see if you think it is ready for publication.  Send end comments to the list.
>>>
>>> The WGLC will end on 29 September 2012.
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>>> --Sandy, speaking as wg co-chair
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