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Re: [sidr] adoption call for draft-kent-sidr-adverse-actions-02

"Carlos M. Martinez" <carlosm3011@gmail.com> Wed, 30 March 2016 12:55 UTC

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Subject: Re: [sidr] adoption call for draft-kent-sidr-adverse-actions-02
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+1

On 3/29/16 6:55 PM, Randy Bush wrote:
>> I do have one remaining concern, but I hope that this can be
>> addressed: this document can be perceived as proof of 'all the things
>> wrong / scary' about RPKI used for origin validation and/or
>> BGPSec. However, to my knowledge, there is no similar analysis of
>> adverse actions to IRRs. Most of the same problems exist there - and
>> far worse: RPs do not have the benefit of object security so they
>> would be largely unaware. I think it would be counterproductive if
>> this wasn't clear, and the document is abused to make a point for
>> being better of with simple IRR.
> 
> this has bothered me.  thank you for expressing it far better than i
> could
> 
> randy
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