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Re: [sidr] adoption call for draft-kent-sidr-adverse-actions-02

Tim Bruijnzeels <tim@ripe.net> Tue, 29 March 2016 15:45 UTC

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Subject: Re: [sidr] adoption call for draft-kent-sidr-adverse-actions-02
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Dear working group,

I support adopting this work. I believe it's useful to think about what can go wrong. I am happy to see that this document (1) focusses on adverse actions irrespective of intentional or accidental cause, and (2) does not suggest a solution.

I do have one remaining concern, but I hope that this can be addressed: this document can be perceived as proof of 'all the things wrong / scary' about RPKI used for origin validation and/or BGPSec. However, to my knowledge, there is no similar analysis of adverse actions to IRRs. Most of the same problems exist there - and far worse: RPs do not have the benefit of object security so they would be largely unaware. I think it would be counterproductive if this wasn't clear, and the document is abused to make a point for being better of with simple IRR.

Regards
Tim


> On 11 Mar 2016, at 18:05, Sandra Murphy <sandy@tislabs.com> wrote:
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> This starts an adoption call for draft-kent-sidr-adverse-actions-02.
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> Please respond on the list if you believe the working group should adopt this draft as a work item.  The adoption call will end 25 Mar 2016.
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> Remember that positive support is needed for adoption. Please state whether you believe the work should be adopted and whether you will review and comment on the work.
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> The draft is available at https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-kent-sidr-adverse-actions-02
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> —Sandy, speaking as one of the wg co-chairs
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