Re: [sidr] additional interim meetings

"George, Wes" <wesley.george@twcable.com> Fri, 23 March 2012 14:21 UTC

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From: "George, Wes" <wesley.george@twcable.com>
To: "Murphy, Sandra" <Sandra.Murphy@sparta.com>, "sidr@ietf.org" <sidr@ietf.org>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: sidr-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:sidr-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of
> Murphy, Sandra
> Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2012 12:08 PM
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> Subject: [sidr] additional interim meetings
>
> Interim meetings would be face-face meetings co-located with venues of
> communities of interest to this work (ie nanog, ripe, arin, etc.) when
> facilities are volunteered, or virtual meetings when volunteer hosts can not
> be found.
>
[WEG] I think I'd rather see these be planned as solely virtual meetings when they are not collocated with another event which contains an audience we'd like to engage (either current SIDR participants or "tourists" whose input would be valuable). Personally, I'm already approaching the maximum amount of travel that I can do and still keep my happy home, well, happy, so carving out time for separate trips even for short-duration things like this is less than preferable. Finances are a consideration as well. I'm responding with some ideas about virtual meetings in another reply.


> The idea is to meet to discuss thorny topics at length.  Agendas announced
> ahead of time, remote participation always available, minutes reported to the
> wg, proceedings published.  When webex is used, recordings will be taken.
[WEG] Generally, I think that the topics proposed are important, and would benefit from discussion beyond the typical few hours at IETF meetings or 200+ message threads, so I support the idea of some focused time outside of IETF meetings. However, I'm not convinced that monthly is necessary. It may be that they are scheduled with that frequency and we do some agenda bashing to make sure that people can attend the things that they have opinions about without needing to commit one full day a month to this. When one considers keeping up with the rest of IETF + $day_job, that starts to get difficult in a hurry.

>
> Here is a suggested semi-schedule for the next several months.
>
> 30 April (chosen so as not to conflict with RIPE or ARIN in the preceding
> weeks)  (Likely important topic - the government oversight concerns at RIPE
> and mitigating possibilities, impacts of the ARIN and RIPE meeting)
[WEG] prefer virtual
>
> 6 Jun, co-located with NANOG (that is the Wed after NANOG ends - there are
> indications that nanog may be able to lend a room after noon.)
[WEG] Makes sense, please publicize WELL (6wks+) in advance on NANOG so that people in the operations community who aren't paying attention to SIDR can make plans to attend, focus the agenda on operational considerations.

>
> the last part of June: 25 Jun - 3 July
[WEG] I'm not convinced we need this one, and summer scheduling is problematic due to vacation. We may have to wait and see what comes of the previous few before determining if we need another one prior to IETF.
>
> at one end or the other of the IETF (sort of like iegp meets at IETFs) in July
[WEG] Manageable as long as the date is set before people make travel plans, probably at least 6 weeks out, preferably 8.

Thanks,
Wes George

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