Re: [Sidrops] WGLC = draft-ietf-sidrops-aspa-verification - ENDS 03/22/2023 (Mar 22 2023)

Randy Bush <randy@psg.com> Thu, 20 April 2023 16:21 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Sidrops] WGLC = draft-ietf-sidrops-aspa-verification - ENDS 03/22/2023 (Mar 22 2023)
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russ:

> I do not think that we should tell implementers the reasons for using
> one table or two.

as "table" is pretty specific about data structure, patricia and i are
not sure it should be there at all.

and why are we telling the implementor how to store and structure their
data anyway?

randy