Re: [Sidrops] WGLC = draft-ietf-sidrops-aspa-verification - ENDS 02/17/2023 (Feb 17 2023)

Job Snijders <job@fastly.com> Fri, 27 January 2023 10:54 UTC

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Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2023 11:54:45 +0100
From: Job Snijders <job@fastly.com>
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Subject: Re: [Sidrops] WGLC = draft-ietf-sidrops-aspa-verification - ENDS 02/17/2023 (Feb 17 2023)
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Dear people of the Internet,

It is too early for WGLC for the aspa-verification draft: the openbgpd
team (as I announced at the last in-person IETF meeting) is in the
middle of producing a production-grade ASPA-capable BGP implementation.
There is no need to increase time-pressure.

The explicit goal of OpenBGPD being 'early' is to use our implementation
experience to improve the clarity and readability of the ASPA drafts.
This means there isn't time pressure "oh help people are deploying ASPA
while it still is an internet-draft"; on the contrary, the current state
of affairs means that people are spending their precious time creating
real-world implementations to ensure that the RFC-published outcome is
not fantasy-talk.

Of note: at the end of 2020 there was good working group consensus to
require multiple implementations before IESG review/RFC publication.
Start of thread: https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/sidrops/6o9t4m9vBCEbpVVtDSQHjLyURNY/
Conclusion by chair: https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/sidrops/p2Nm9K0M6JLqjNghgD5ktbVC3VY/

While the ASPA-profile draft lists many implementations (both signers &
validators), on the ASPA-verification side of things I'm not entirely
sure what efforts exist outside of OpenBGPD.

What is the status of ASPA in NIST BGP-SRx? Any other in-flight efforts
to implement ASPA-verification in a BGP stack that people can share
reports on?

Kind regards,

Job


On Thu, Jan 26, 2023 at 01:43:42PM -0500, Christopher Morrow wrote:
> Howdy People Of the Internet:
> The authors of the draft/document:
>    https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-sidrops-aspa-verification/
> 
> have asked for a working-group last-call event to happen.
> Please take a few moments to read the ~15 pages, provide
> assent, comments, criticism (in the form of replacement text) in the
> next 2 or so weeks.
> 
> This last-call should expire 17/feb 2023
> 
> Thanks!
> -chris
> co-chair-eyeglasses-missing, but necessary.
> 
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