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Re: [Sidrops] question on draft-ietf-sidrops-aspa-verification-04

Nick Hilliard <nick@foobar.org> Sat, 06 June 2020 16:39 UTC

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Job Snijders wrote on 06/06/2020 16:53:
> What exactly was stomped out?

route servers not being as-path transparent.

> There is a number of them, such as IIX in Isreal.

IIX is a router:

https://en.isoc.org.il/iix/iix-tech-info

i.e. not a traditional IXP: routing policy is controlled by the router 
operator rather than by the participants.

Nick

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