Re: [Sidrops] question on draft-ietf-sidrops-aspa-verification-04

Job Snijders <job@ntt.net> Sat, 06 June 2020 15:53 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Sidrops] question on draft-ietf-sidrops-aspa-verification-04
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On Fri, Jun 05, 2020 at 10:16:45AM -0700, Randy Bush wrote:
> >> are there really still layer three ixen which put their as in the
> >> path?  i thought that we finally stomped that out 15-20 years ago.

What exactly was stomped out?

> > I've heard there's a handful of organisations still doing this, but
> > it's a rarity and is dying out.  It would not be productive to build
> > this assumption into any new policy protocol development.
> 
> then i suggest we not add complexity in the document for this dead
> corner cases.

There is a number of them, such as IIX in Isreal.

But how does this case exactly differ from any regular Transit ISP? Why
would special accomodations need to be made?


Kind regards,

Job