Re: [Simple] Internal WG Review: Recharter of SIP for Instant Messaging and Presence Leveraging Extensions (simple)

["Hisham Khartabil" <[e-mail]>]

I believe this was to be put into the June milestone. But I guess Ben
and Paul want to see it as one of the primary milestones listed.

Regards,
Hisham

On 31/01/07, Ben Campbell <[e-mail]> wrote:
> I also remember that being brought up, and also don't remember the
> outcome ;-)
>
> On Jan 30, 2007, at 4:15 PM, Paul Kyzivat wrote:
>
> > Wasn't there some talk of a need to specify how to choose between
> > MESSAGE and MSRP, and/or to transition between them in support of a
> > single conversation?
> >
> > E.g. send a MESSAGE because there may never be a conversation, but
> > then INVITE with an MSRP session to continue the conversation. The
> > need here would be for a way to tie these things together so it is
> > clear that they are part of the same conversation. There are
> > obviously issues with involving the same pair of UAs in both.
> >
> > I seem to recall this was discussed at some point, but I'm not sure
> > and if so I don't remember the outcome.
> >
> >       Paul
> >
> > IESG Secretary wrote:
> >> A new charter for the SIP for Instant Messaging and Presence
> >> Leveraging
> >> Extensions (simple) working group in the Real-time Applications and
> >> Infrastructure Area of the IETF is being considered. The draft
> >> charter is provided below for your review and comment.
> >> Review time is one week.
> >> The IETF Secretariat
> >> +++
> >> SIP for Instant Messaging and Presence Leveraging Extensions (simple)
> >> =====================================================================
> >> =
> >> Last Modified: 2007-1-24
> >> Current Status: Active Working Group
> >> Chair(s):
> >> Robert Sparks <[e-mail]>
> >> Hisham Khartabil <[e-mail]>
> >> Real-time Applications and Infrastructure Area Director(s):
> >> Jon Peterson <[e-mail]>
> >> Cullen Jennings <[e-mail]>
> >> Real-time Applications and Infrastructure Area Advisor:
> >> Jon Peterson <[e-mail]>
> >> Technical Advisor(s):
> >> Jon Peterson <[e-mail]>
> >> Mailing Lists:
> >> General Discussion: [e-mail]
> >> To Subscribe: [e-mail]
> >> In Body: subscribe
> >> Archive: http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/simple/index.html
> >> Description of Working Group:
> >> This working group focuses on the application of the Session
> >> Initiation
> >> Protocol (SIP, RFC 3261) to the suite of services collectively
> >> known as
> >> instant messaging and presence (IMP). The IETF has committed to
> >> producing an interoperable standard for these services compliant
> >> to the requirements for IM outlined in RFC 2779 (including the
> >> security and privacy requirements there) and in the Common
> >> Presence and Instant Messaging (CPIM) specification, developed
> >> within the IMPP working group. As the most common services for
> >> which SIP is used share quite a bit in common with IMP, the
> >> adaptation of SIP to IMP seems a natural choice given the
> >> widespread support for (and relative maturity of) the
> >> SIP standard.
> >> This group has completed the majority of its primary goals and
> >> will focus on the remaining tasks documented here and concluding.
> >> Any proposed new work should be socialized with the chairs and AD
> >> early to determine if this WG is an appropriate venue.
> >> The primary remaining work of this group will be to complete:
> >> 1. The MSRP proposed standard mechanism for transporting sessions of
> >> messages initiated using the SIP, compliant to the requirments of
> >> RFC 2779, CPIM and BCP 41.
> >> 2. The XCAP framework for representing and carrying configuration and
> >> policy information in SIMPLE systems.
> >> 3. A mechanism for representing partial changes (patches) to XML
> >> documents and extensions to the SIMPLE publication and
> >> notification mechanisms to convey these partial changes.
> >> 4. A mechanism for initiating and managing Instant Message group
> >> chat.
> >> 5. An annotated overview of the SIMPLE protocol definition documents.
> >> Any SIP extensions proposed in the course of this development
> >> will, after a last call process, be transferred to the SIP WG for
> >> consideration as formal SIP extensions.
> >> Any mechanisms created for managing Instant Message group chat are
> >> intended to provide a bridge to the conferencing protocols that
> >> will be defined in XCON. They will be limited in scope to address
> >> only simple Instant Message chat with nicknames and will not attempt
> >> to address complex conferencing concepts such as sidebars. Their
> >> design must anticipate operating in conjunction with the
> >> conferencing protocols XCON is working towards.
> >> The working group will work within the framework for presence and IM
> >> described in RFC 2778. The extensions it defines must also be
> >> compliant with the SIP processes for extensions. The group cannot
> >> modify baseline SIP behavior or define a new version of SIP for IM
> >> and presence. If the group determines that any capabilities
> >> requiring an extension to SIP are needed, the group will seek to
> >> define such
> >> extensions within the SIP working group, and then use them here.
> >> Goals and Milestones:
> >> Done Submission of event package for presence to IESG for
> >> publication as Proposed Standard
> >> Done Submission of watcher information drafts to IESG for
> >> publication as Proposed Standards
> >> Done Submission of proposed event list mechanism to the SIP
> >> working group Done Submission of requirements for event publishing
> >> to the IESG for
> >> publication as Proposed Standard
> >> Done Submission of proposed mechanism for event publishing to the SIP
> >> working group
> >> Done Submission of SIMPLE PIDF profile to IESG for publication as
> >> Proposed Standard
> >> Done Submission of base XCAP draft to IESG for publication as
> >> Proposed
> >> Standard
> >> Done Submission of indication of instant message preparation using
> >> SIP to IESG for publication as a Proposed Standard
> >> Done Submission of XCAP usage for manipulation of presence document
> >> content
> >> Done Submission of XCAP usage for setting presence authorization
> >> to IESG for publication as Proposed Standard
> >> Done Submission of Filtering mechanisms to IESG for publication as a
> >> Proposed Standard
> >> Done Submission of instant messaging session draft to IESG for
> >> publication as a Proposed Standard
> >> Done Submission of instant messaging session relay drafts to IESG for
> >> publication as Proposed Standards
> >> Done Submission of Partial Notification mechanism to IESG for
> >> publication as a Proposed Standard
> >> Feb 2007 Submission of an Instant Message Disposition Notification
> >> mechanism to the IESG for publication as a Proposed Standard
> >> Feb 2007 Submission of XCAP event package to IESG or appropriate
> >> working group targeting publication as Proposed Standard
> >> Feb 2007 Submission of proposed mechanisms meeting the advanced
> >> messaging requirements to the IESG or appropriate working group
> >> Mar 2007 Submission of a performance and scalability analysis of the
> >> SIMPLE presence mechanisms to the IESG for publication as
> >> Informational
> >> Jun 2007 Submission of SIMPLE protocol annotated overview draft to
> >> IESG
> >> for publication as Informational
> >> Aug 2007 Submission of proposed mechanisms for initiating and
> >> managing
> >> Instant Message group chat to the IESG for publication as Proposed
> >> Standard
> >> Aug 2007 Conclusion of SIMPLE
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