Re: [Sip] Draft agenda, SIP at IETF 72
"Christer Holmberg" <christer.holmberg@ericsson.com> Thu, 17 July 2008 05:24 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Sip] Draft agenda, SIP at IETF 72
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Hi, As I said earlier, I see no major issue with 199 at this point which would require face-to-face discussions. I could give a status update, but that would only take about 5 minutes. I think we DO need to decided, based on Keith's requirement questions etc, how to move forward with keep. I also think two slots now give us a good opportunity to discuss (and decide) what to do with INFO, so I really think we should use the two slots that have been given to us. Regards, Christer ________________________________ Lähettäjä: sip-bounces@ietf.org puolesta: Robert Sparks Lähetetty: ke 16.7.2008 23:20 Vastaanottaja: Dean Willis Kopio: SIP IETF; Cullen Jennings Aihe: Re: [Sip] Draft agenda, SIP at IETF 72 This is a really good place to start bashing from. Thanks for going through the pain it takes to put this together. Everyone should take note that the second session has a RAI conflict (with DRINKS) and think through where to put conversations so that we minimize the pain caused by the necessary split of people. I think I'd rather see the large, architectural questions, INFO and Identity, moved into the conflict free spot and put topics with a smaller constituency into the second session. I also think people across the working group should chime in with what they think the three most important _DRAFTS_ to talk about, in person, at this meeting are. I strongly suspect there's a surprise or two that will come out of that. I'll throw my own list in later (because I want to think awhile about what's _not_ in the proposed agenda), but to help tune things early: I do want to talk about 199. I don't see why we should spend face time on sip-keep at this point. I think we can get away without face time on record-route fix. (its unlikely at this late stage that we'll find a crisis to work through there). I have received very little feedback on invfix, and I don't think we need to spend any in-meeting time on the essential corrections process itself. So, I propose we take that entire topic to the list and/or hallways. I'll take on pushing a few key folks to review the big recent changes to invfix and speak up that they've done so before we get to the meetings. Everybody else: If you hold the token on any of the other drafts and feel you can resolve any issues you currently have the same way, I strongly urge you to propose something similar for your time. RjS On Jul 16, 2008, at 10:45 AM, Dean Willis wrote: > > This is the draft agenda for the SIP meeting at IETF 72 in Dublin. > > * Note that this agenda is subject to change based on list > conversations > > * Note that we're still trying to work out how to have the > "Identity" discussion > > Pretty HTML is at: > http://www.softarmor.com/mediawiki/index.php/SIP_Agenda_IETF_72 > > Text follows > > ----------------- > > Agenda for SIP at IETF 72, Primary Session, Tuesday July 29, 2008, > 1300-1500, Convention 3 > > Agenda Bash > Chairs > 10 > > Using SAML for SIP > Chairs > draft-ietf-sip-saml-04 > 10 > > Identify requirements for test matrix to move SIP to Draft Standard > Robert Sparks > draft-sparks-sip-steps-to-draft-00 > 20 > > Essential corrections to RFC 3261 (1st batch) > Robert Sparks > draft-sparks-sip-invfix-02 > 15 > > Delivery of Request URI and Parameters to UAS Through Proxy > Speaker TBD > draft-rosenberg-sip-ua-loose-route-02 > draft-holmberg-sip-target-uri-delivery-01 > 25 > > > Mechanisms for UA Initiated Privacy > Mayumi Munakata > draft-ietf-sip-ua-privacy-02 > 15 > > MIME body handling in SIP > Gonzalo Camarillo > draft-ietf-sip-body-handling-02 > 15 > > Guidelines for double route recording > Thomas Froment > draft-ietf-sip-record-route-fix-03 > Time TBD > > Keepalive Without Outbound > Christer Holmberg > draft-holmberg-sip-keep-01 > 10 > > > Agenda for SIP at IETF 72, Primary Session, Thursday July 31, 2008, > 1510-1610, Convention 3 > > Agenda Bash > Chairs > 5 > > Termination of early dialog prior to final response > Christer Holmberg > draft-ietf-sip-199-00 > 20 > > INFO > Speaker TBD > draft-burger-sip-info-02 > draft-kaplan-sip-info-events-01 > draft-rosenberg-sip-info-litmus-01 > draft-kaplan-sipping-dtmf-package-00 > draft-willis-sip-infopackage-00 > 35 > > > _______________________________________________ > Sip mailing list https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sip > This list is for NEW development of the core SIP Protocol > Use sip-implementors@cs.columbia.edu for questions on current sip > Use sipping@ietf.org for new developments on the application of sip _______________________________________________ Sip mailing list https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sip This list is for NEW development of the core SIP Protocol Use sip-implementors@cs.columbia.edu for questions on current sip Use sipping@ietf.org for new developments on the application of sip _______________________________________________ Sip mailing list https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sip This list is for NEW development of the core SIP Protocol Use sip-implementors@cs.columbia.edu for questions on current sip Use sipping@ietf.org for new developments on the application of sip
- Re: [Sip] Draft agenda, SIP at IETF 72 Christer Holmberg
- [Sip] Draft agenda, SIP at IETF 72 Dean Willis
- Re: [Sip] Draft agenda, SIP at IETF 72 Robert Sparks
- Re: [Sip] Draft agenda, SIP at IETF 72 Hisham Khartabil
- Re: [Sip] Draft agenda, SIP at IETF 72 Dean Willis
- Re: [Sip] Draft agenda, SIP at IETF 72 Hisham Khartabil
- Re: [Sip] Draft agenda, SIP at IETF 72 Elwell, John
- Re: [Sip] Draft agenda, SIP at IETF 72 Hadriel Kaplan
- Re: [Sip] Draft agenda, SIP at IETF 72 DRAGE, Keith (Keith)
- Re: [Sip] Draft agenda, SIP at IETF 72 Elwell, John
- Re: [Sip] Draft agenda, SIP at IETF 72 Hadriel Kaplan
- Re: [Sip] Draft agenda, SIP at IETF 72 Robert Sparks
- Re: [Sip] Draft agenda, SIP at IETF 72 Tschofenig, Hannes (NSN - FI/Espoo)
- Re: [Sip] Draft agenda, SIP at IETF 72 DRAGE, Keith (Keith)
- Re: [Sip] Draft agenda, SIP at IETF 72 Dean Willis
- [Sip] invfix on 72 agenda (was Re: Draft agenda, … Dean Willis
- [Sip] saml on 72 agenda (Re: Draft agenda, SIP at… Dean Willis
- Re: [Sip] Draft agenda, SIP at IETF 72 Brian Rosen
- Re: [Sip] saml on 72 agenda (Re: Draft agenda, SI… Tschofenig, Hannes (NSN - FI/Espoo)
- Re: [Sip] Draft agenda, SIP at IETF 72 Tschofenig, Hannes (NSN - FI/Espoo)
- Re: [Sip] Draft agenda, SIP at IETF 72 James M. Polk
- Re: [Sip] saml on 72 agenda (Re: Draft agenda, SI… Dean Willis
- Re: [Sip] saml on 72 agenda (Re: Draft agenda, SI… Tschofenig, Hannes (NSN - FI/Espoo)
- [Sip] saml proposal Dean Willis
- Re: [Sip] saml proposal Tschofenig, Hannes (NSN - FI/Espoo)
- Re: [Sip] saml proposal Elwell, John
- Re: [Sip] saml proposal Tschofenig, Hannes (NSN - FI/Espoo)
- Re: [Sip] Draft agenda, SIP at IETF 72 Jonathan Rosenberg
- Re: [Sip] saml proposal Dean Willis
- Re: [Sip] Draft agenda, SIP at IETF 72 Dean Willis
- [Sip] 199 on agenda for SIP at IETF 72 Dean Willis
- Re: [Sip] Draft agenda, SIP at IETF 72 Elwell, John
- Re: [Sip] Late Milestones (was Re: Draft agenda, … DRAGE, Keith (Keith)
- Re: [Sip] saml proposal Andreas Pashalidis
- Re: [Sip] 199 on agenda for SIP at IETF 72 Robert Sparks
- Re: [Sip] Draft agenda, SIP at IETF 72 Robert Sparks
- [Sip] Late Milestones (was Re: Draft agenda, SIP … Dean Willis
- Re: [Sip] Draft agenda, SIP at IETF 72 Cullen Jennings
- Re: [Sip] Late Milestones (was Re: Draft agenda, … Tschofenig, Hannes (NSN - FI/Espoo)
- Re: [Sip] Late Milestones (was Re: Draft agenda, … Robert Sparks
- Re: [Sip] Draft agenda, SIP at IETF 72 Cullen Jennings
- Re: [Sip] Draft agenda, SIP at IETF 72 James M. Polk
- Re: [Sip] Late Milestones (was Re: Draft agenda, … James M. Polk
- Re: [Sip] Late Milestones (was Re: Draft agenda, … James M. Polk
- Re: [Sip] Late Milestones (was Re: Draft agenda, … DRAGE, Keith (Keith)
- Re: [Sip] Draft agenda, SIP at IETF 72 Hadriel Kaplan
- Re: [Sip] Late Milestones (was Re: Draft agenda, … Vijay K. Gurbani