Re: [Sip] Draft agenda, SIP at IETF 72

"Hisham Khartabil" <hisham.khartabil@gmail.com> Thu, 17 July 2008 05:38 UTC

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Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 15:38:48 +1000
From: Hisham Khartabil <hisham.khartabil@gmail.com>
To: Christer Holmberg <christer.holmberg@ericsson.com>
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Subject: Re: [Sip] Draft agenda, SIP at IETF 72
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Christer,

The 2nd session conflits with DRINKS, therefore you will find that it may
well end up having all the unimportant topics discussed in it. I therefore
suggested cancelling that session compeletly. I really believe important
topics can be queezed into the one session.

Regards,
Hisham


On 17/07/2008, Christer Holmberg <christer.holmberg@ericsson.com> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> As I said earlier, I see no major issue with 199 at this point which would
> require face-to-face discussions. I could give a status update, but that
> would only take about 5 minutes.
>
> I think we DO need to decided, based on Keith's requirement questions etc,
> how to move forward with keep.
>
> I also think two slots now give us a good opportunity to discuss (and
> decide) what to do with INFO, so I really think we should use the two slots
> that have been given to us.
>
> Regards,
>
> Christer
>
> ________________________________
>
> Lähettäjä: sip-bounces@ietf.org puolesta: Robert Sparks
> Lähetetty: ke 16.7.2008 23:20
> Vastaanottaja: Dean Willis
> Kopio: SIP IETF; Cullen Jennings
> Aihe: Re: [Sip] Draft agenda, SIP at IETF 72
>
>
>
> This is a really good place to start bashing from. Thanks for going
> through the pain it takes to put this together.
>
> Everyone should take note that the second session has a RAI conflict
> (with DRINKS) and think through where to put conversations so that
> we minimize the pain caused by the necessary split of people.
>
> I think I'd rather see the large, architectural questions,
> INFO and Identity, moved into the conflict free spot and
> put topics with a smaller constituency into the second session.
>
> I also think people across the working group should chime in with what
> they think
> the three most important _DRAFTS_ to talk about, in person, at this
> meeting are.
> I strongly suspect there's a surprise or two that will come out of that.
>
> I'll throw my own list in later (because I want to think awhile about
> what's _not_
> in the proposed agenda), but to help tune things early:
>
> I do want to talk about 199.
>
> I don't see why we should spend face time on sip-keep at this point.
>
> I think we can get away without face time on record-route fix.
> (its unlikely at this late stage that we'll find a crisis to work
> through there).
>
> I have received very little feedback on invfix, and I don't think
>     we need to spend any in-meeting time on the essential
>     corrections process itself. So, I propose we take that entire
>     topic to the list and/or hallways. I'll take on pushing a few
>     key folks to review the big recent changes to invfix and
>     speak up that they've done so before we get to the meetings.
>
> Everybody else: If you hold the token on any of the other drafts and
> feel you can
> resolve any issues you currently have the same way, I strongly urge
> you to propose something similar for your time.
>
>
> RjS
>
>
>
> On Jul 16, 2008, at 10:45 AM, Dean Willis wrote:
>
> >
> > This is the draft agenda for the SIP meeting at IETF 72 in Dublin.
> >
> > * Note that this agenda is subject to change based on list
> > conversations
> >
> > * Note that we're still trying to work out how to have the
> > "Identity" discussion
> >
> > Pretty HTML is at:
> > http://www.softarmor.com/mediawiki/index.php/SIP_Agenda_IETF_72
> >
> > Text follows
> >
> > -----------------
> >
> > Agenda for SIP at IETF 72, Primary Session, Tuesday July 29, 2008,
> > 1300-1500, Convention 3
> >
> > Agenda Bash
> > Chairs
> > 10
> >
> > Using SAML for SIP
> > Chairs
> > draft-ietf-sip-saml-04
> > 10
> >
> > Identify requirements for test matrix to move SIP to Draft Standard
> > Robert Sparks
> > draft-sparks-sip-steps-to-draft-00
> > 20
> >
> > Essential corrections to RFC 3261 (1st batch)
> > Robert Sparks
> > draft-sparks-sip-invfix-02
> > 15
> >
> > Delivery of Request URI and Parameters to UAS Through Proxy
> > Speaker TBD
> > draft-rosenberg-sip-ua-loose-route-02
> > draft-holmberg-sip-target-uri-delivery-01
> > 25
> >
> >
> > Mechanisms for UA Initiated Privacy
> > Mayumi Munakata
> > draft-ietf-sip-ua-privacy-02
> > 15
> >
> > MIME body handling in SIP
> > Gonzalo Camarillo
> > draft-ietf-sip-body-handling-02
> > 15
> >
> > Guidelines for double route recording
> > Thomas Froment
> > draft-ietf-sip-record-route-fix-03
> > Time TBD
> >
> > Keepalive Without Outbound
> > Christer Holmberg
> > draft-holmberg-sip-keep-01
> > 10
> >
> >
> > Agenda for SIP at IETF 72, Primary Session, Thursday July 31, 2008,
> > 1510-1610, Convention 3
> >
> > Agenda Bash
> > Chairs
> > 5
> >
> > Termination of early dialog prior to final response
> > Christer Holmberg
> > draft-ietf-sip-199-00
> > 20
> >
> > INFO
> > Speaker TBD
> > draft-burger-sip-info-02
> > draft-kaplan-sip-info-events-01
> > draft-rosenberg-sip-info-litmus-01
> > draft-kaplan-sipping-dtmf-package-00
> > draft-willis-sip-infopackage-00
> > 35
> >
> >
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