Re: [Sip] Draft agenda, SIP at IETF 72
Hadriel Kaplan <HKaplan@acmepacket.com> Thu, 17 July 2008 07:32 UTC
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From: Hadriel Kaplan <HKaplan@acmepacket.com>
To: "Elwell, John" <john.elwell@siemens.com>, Robert Sparks <rjsparks@nostrum.com>, Dean Willis <dean.willis@softarmor.com>
Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 03:31:57 -0400
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Subject: Re: [Sip] Draft agenda, SIP at IETF 72
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My list is the same as John's, fwiw. I'm also very surprised SIP can be scheduled in conflict with any other RAI WG, especially a brand new one. :( -hadriel > -----Original Message----- > From: sip-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:sip-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of > Elwell, John > Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 3:11 AM > To: Robert Sparks; Dean Willis > Cc: SIP IETF; Cullen Jennings > Subject: Re: [Sip] Draft agenda, SIP at IETF 72 > > My 3 (well, 4) most important topics: > - RFC 4474 issues > - INFO > - Next steps towards Draft > - UA loose route > > John > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: sip-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:sip-bounces@ietf.org] On > > Behalf Of Robert Sparks > > Sent: 16 July 2008 22:21 > > To: Dean Willis > > Cc: SIP IETF; Cullen Jennings > > Subject: Re: [Sip] Draft agenda, SIP at IETF 72 > > > > This is a really good place to start bashing from. Thanks for going > > through the pain it takes to put this together. > > > > Everyone should take note that the second session has a RAI conflict > > (with DRINKS) and think through where to put conversations so that > > we minimize the pain caused by the necessary split of people. > > > > I think I'd rather see the large, architectural questions, > > INFO and Identity, moved into the conflict free spot and > > put topics with a smaller constituency into the second session. > > > > I also think people across the working group should chime in > > with what > > they think > > the three most important _DRAFTS_ to talk about, in person, at this > > meeting are. > > I strongly suspect there's a surprise or two that will come > > out of that. > > > > I'll throw my own list in later (because I want to think > > awhile about > > what's _not_ > > in the proposed agenda), but to help tune things early: > > > > I do want to talk about 199. > > > > I don't see why we should spend face time on sip-keep at this point. > > > > I think we can get away without face time on record-route fix. > > (its unlikely at this late stage that we'll find a crisis to work > > through there). > > > > I have received very little feedback on invfix, and I don't think > > we need to spend any in-meeting time on the essential > > corrections process itself. So, I propose we take that entire > > topic to the list and/or hallways. I'll take on pushing a few > > key folks to review the big recent changes to invfix and > > speak up that they've done so before we get to the meetings. > > > > Everybody else: If you hold the token on any of the other drafts and > > feel you can > > resolve any issues you currently have the same way, I strongly urge > > you to propose something similar for your time. > > > > > > RjS > > > > > > > > On Jul 16, 2008, at 10:45 AM, Dean Willis wrote: > > > > > > > > This is the draft agenda for the SIP meeting at IETF 72 in Dublin. > > > > > > * Note that this agenda is subject to change based on list > > > conversations > > > > > > * Note that we're still trying to work out how to have the > > > "Identity" discussion > > > > > > Pretty HTML is at: > > > http://www.softarmor.com/mediawiki/index.php/SIP_Agenda_IETF_72 > > > > > > Text follows > > > > > > ----------------- > > > > > > Agenda for SIP at IETF 72, Primary Session, Tuesday July 29, 2008, > > > 1300-1500, Convention 3 > > > > > > Agenda Bash > > > Chairs > > > 10 > > > > > > Using SAML for SIP > > > Chairs > > > draft-ietf-sip-saml-04 > > > 10 > > > > > > Identify requirements for test matrix to move SIP to Draft Standard > > > Robert Sparks > > > draft-sparks-sip-steps-to-draft-00 > > > 20 > > > > > > Essential corrections to RFC 3261 (1st batch) > > > Robert Sparks > > > draft-sparks-sip-invfix-02 > > > 15 > > > > > > Delivery of Request URI and Parameters to UAS Through Proxy > > > Speaker TBD > > > draft-rosenberg-sip-ua-loose-route-02 > > > draft-holmberg-sip-target-uri-delivery-01 > > > 25 > > > > > > > > > Mechanisms for UA Initiated Privacy > > > Mayumi Munakata > > > draft-ietf-sip-ua-privacy-02 > > > 15 > > > > > > MIME body handling in SIP > > > Gonzalo Camarillo > > > draft-ietf-sip-body-handling-02 > > > 15 > > > > > > Guidelines for double route recording > > > Thomas Froment > > > draft-ietf-sip-record-route-fix-03 > > > Time TBD > > > > > > Keepalive Without Outbound > > > Christer Holmberg > > > draft-holmberg-sip-keep-01 > > > 10 > > > > > > > > > Agenda for SIP at IETF 72, Primary Session, Thursday July > > 31, 2008, > > > 1510-1610, Convention 3 > > > > > > Agenda Bash > > > Chairs > > > 5 > > > > > > Termination of early dialog prior to final response > > > Christer Holmberg > > > draft-ietf-sip-199-00 > > > 20 > > > > > > INFO > > > Speaker TBD > > > draft-burger-sip-info-02 > > > draft-kaplan-sip-info-events-01 > > > draft-rosenberg-sip-info-litmus-01 > > > draft-kaplan-sipping-dtmf-package-00 > > > draft-willis-sip-infopackage-00 > > > 35 > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Sip mailing list https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sip > > > This list is for NEW development of the core SIP Protocol > > > Use sip-implementors@cs.columbia.edu for questions on current sip > > > Use sipping@ietf.org for new developments on the application of sip > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Sip mailing list https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sip > > This list is for NEW development of the core SIP Protocol > > Use sip-implementors@cs.columbia.edu for questions on current sip > > Use sipping@ietf.org for new developments on the application of sip > > > _______________________________________________ > Sip mailing list https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sip > This list is for NEW development of the core SIP Protocol > Use sip-implementors@cs.columbia.edu for questions on current sip > Use sipping@ietf.org for new developments on the application of sip _______________________________________________ Sip mailing list https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sip This list is for NEW development of the core SIP Protocol Use sip-implementors@cs.columbia.edu for questions on current sip Use sipping@ietf.org for new developments on the application of sip
- Re: [Sip] Draft agenda, SIP at IETF 72 Christer Holmberg
- [Sip] Draft agenda, SIP at IETF 72 Dean Willis
- Re: [Sip] Draft agenda, SIP at IETF 72 Robert Sparks
- Re: [Sip] Draft agenda, SIP at IETF 72 Hisham Khartabil
- Re: [Sip] Draft agenda, SIP at IETF 72 Dean Willis
- Re: [Sip] Draft agenda, SIP at IETF 72 Hisham Khartabil
- Re: [Sip] Draft agenda, SIP at IETF 72 Elwell, John
- Re: [Sip] Draft agenda, SIP at IETF 72 Hadriel Kaplan
- Re: [Sip] Draft agenda, SIP at IETF 72 DRAGE, Keith (Keith)
- Re: [Sip] Draft agenda, SIP at IETF 72 Elwell, John
- Re: [Sip] Draft agenda, SIP at IETF 72 Hadriel Kaplan
- Re: [Sip] Draft agenda, SIP at IETF 72 Robert Sparks
- Re: [Sip] Draft agenda, SIP at IETF 72 Tschofenig, Hannes (NSN - FI/Espoo)
- Re: [Sip] Draft agenda, SIP at IETF 72 DRAGE, Keith (Keith)
- Re: [Sip] Draft agenda, SIP at IETF 72 Dean Willis
- [Sip] invfix on 72 agenda (was Re: Draft agenda, … Dean Willis
- [Sip] saml on 72 agenda (Re: Draft agenda, SIP at… Dean Willis
- Re: [Sip] Draft agenda, SIP at IETF 72 Brian Rosen
- Re: [Sip] saml on 72 agenda (Re: Draft agenda, SI… Tschofenig, Hannes (NSN - FI/Espoo)
- Re: [Sip] Draft agenda, SIP at IETF 72 Tschofenig, Hannes (NSN - FI/Espoo)
- Re: [Sip] Draft agenda, SIP at IETF 72 James M. Polk
- Re: [Sip] saml on 72 agenda (Re: Draft agenda, SI… Dean Willis
- Re: [Sip] saml on 72 agenda (Re: Draft agenda, SI… Tschofenig, Hannes (NSN - FI/Espoo)
- [Sip] saml proposal Dean Willis
- Re: [Sip] saml proposal Tschofenig, Hannes (NSN - FI/Espoo)
- Re: [Sip] saml proposal Elwell, John
- Re: [Sip] saml proposal Tschofenig, Hannes (NSN - FI/Espoo)
- Re: [Sip] Draft agenda, SIP at IETF 72 Jonathan Rosenberg
- Re: [Sip] saml proposal Dean Willis
- Re: [Sip] Draft agenda, SIP at IETF 72 Dean Willis
- [Sip] 199 on agenda for SIP at IETF 72 Dean Willis
- Re: [Sip] Draft agenda, SIP at IETF 72 Elwell, John
- Re: [Sip] Late Milestones (was Re: Draft agenda, … DRAGE, Keith (Keith)
- Re: [Sip] saml proposal Andreas Pashalidis
- Re: [Sip] 199 on agenda for SIP at IETF 72 Robert Sparks
- Re: [Sip] Draft agenda, SIP at IETF 72 Robert Sparks
- [Sip] Late Milestones (was Re: Draft agenda, SIP … Dean Willis
- Re: [Sip] Draft agenda, SIP at IETF 72 Cullen Jennings
- Re: [Sip] Late Milestones (was Re: Draft agenda, … Tschofenig, Hannes (NSN - FI/Espoo)
- Re: [Sip] Late Milestones (was Re: Draft agenda, … Robert Sparks
- Re: [Sip] Draft agenda, SIP at IETF 72 Cullen Jennings
- Re: [Sip] Draft agenda, SIP at IETF 72 James M. Polk
- Re: [Sip] Late Milestones (was Re: Draft agenda, … James M. Polk
- Re: [Sip] Late Milestones (was Re: Draft agenda, … James M. Polk
- Re: [Sip] Late Milestones (was Re: Draft agenda, … DRAGE, Keith (Keith)
- Re: [Sip] Draft agenda, SIP at IETF 72 Hadriel Kaplan
- Re: [Sip] Late Milestones (was Re: Draft agenda, … Vijay K. Gurbani