Re: [Sip] TOTE - "INFO" on the media path: Comment on TCP ICE lite
Jonathan Rosenberg <jdrosen@cisco.com> Sat, 16 February 2008 15:16 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Sip] TOTE - "INFO" on the media path: Comment on TCP ICE lite
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The pending ice-tcp draft, which will be out before the non-00 deadline, will describe ICE-lite for tcp. -Jonathan R. Christer Holmberg wrote: > > Hi Jonathan, > > Chapter 2 of the draft says: > > "All TOTE implementations support at least the lite versionof > Interactive Connectivity Establishment (ICE) for TCP > [I-D.ietf-mmusic-ice-tcp]." > > Now, as far as I know we haven't specified any ICE lite procedures > for TCP. ice-tcp-05 (do I read the wrong version?) also says: > > "Because this specification requires multiple candidates for a media > stream, it is not compatible with ICE's lite implementation, and can > only be used by full implementations." > > Now, different alternatives regarding this were discussed in > Vancouver, and one of the proposals discussed was to implementing > "TCP ICE lite" simply by removing the candidates, use the RFC 4145 > "fallback" - and specify that ICE could still be used for UDP based > streams. > > As you said, though, I guess the detailed discussion of the proposal > belongs to MMUSIC... > > Regards, > > Christer > > > > > ________________________________ > > From: sip-bounces@ietf.org on behalf of Jonathan Rosenberg Sent: Sat > 16/02/2008 01:54 To: IETF SIP List Subject: [Sip] New I-D - TOTE - > "INFO" on the media path > > > > I just submitted a new I-D, which proposes a protocol called TOTE: > http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-rosenberg-sip-tote-00.txt > > Basically, TOTE provides the ability to exchange MIME objects of any > type and "purpose" over a tcp/tls connection established e2e through > SDP O/A procedures and ICE-tcp. This ties into the INFO disussion; it > provides the media-plane equivalent of the INFO-events framework. > > This draft should arguably go in mmusic but since the INFO debate is > happening here I submitted it as a -sip. > > Thanks, Jonathan R. -- Jonathan D. Rosenberg, Ph.D. > 499 Thornall St. Cisco Fellow > Edison, NJ 08837 Cisco, Voice Technology Group jdrosen@cisco.com > http://www.jdrosen.net <http://www.jdrosen.net/> > PHONE: (408) 902-3084 http://www.cisco.com <http://www.cisco.com/> > _______________________________________________ Sip mailing list > http://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sip This list is for NEW > development of the core SIP Protocol Use > sip-implementors@cs.columbia.edu for questions on current sip Use > sipping@ietf.org for new developments on the application of sip > > > -- Jonathan D. Rosenberg, Ph.D. 499 Thornall St. Cisco Fellow Edison, NJ 08837 Cisco, Voice Technology Group jdrosen@cisco.com http://www.jdrosen.net PHONE: (408) 902-3084 http://www.cisco.com _______________________________________________ Sip mailing list http://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sip This list is for NEW development of the core SIP Protocol Use sip-implementors@cs.columbia.edu for questions on current sip Use sipping@ietf.org for new developments on the application of sip
- [Sip] New I-D - TOTE - "INFO" on the media path Jonathan Rosenberg
- Re: [Sip] New I-D - TOTE - "INFO" on the media pa… Dean Willis
- Re: [Sip] New I-D - TOTE - "INFO" on the media pa… Christer Holmberg
- [Sip] TOTE - "INFO" on the media path: Comment on… Christer Holmberg
- Re: [Sip] New I-D - TOTE - "INFO" on the media pa… Jonathan Rosenberg
- Re: [Sip] TOTE - "INFO" on the media path: Commen… Jonathan Rosenberg
- Re: [Sip] New I-D - TOTE - "INFO" on the media pa… Ted Hardie
- Re: [Sip] New I-D - TOTE - "INFO" on the media pa… Dean Willis
- Re: [Sip] New I-D - TOTE - "INFO" on the media pa… Ted Hardie
- Re: [Sip] New I-D - TOTE - "INFO" on the media pa… Dean Willis
- Re: [Sip] New I-D - TOTE - "INFO" on the media pa… Dale.Worley
- Re: [Sip] New I-D - TOTE - "INFO" on the media pa… Jonathan Rosenberg
- Re: [Sip] New I-D - TOTE - "INFO" on the media pa… Chris Boulton
- Re: [Sip] New I-D - TOTE - "INFO" on the media pa… Hadriel Kaplan
- Re: [Sip] New I-D - TOTE - "INFO" on the media pa… Hannes Tschofenig
- Re: [Sip] New I-D - TOTE - "INFO" on the media pa… Hadriel Kaplan
- Re: [Sip] New I-D - TOTE - "INFO" on the media pa… Chris Boulton
- Re: [Sip] New I-D - TOTE - "INFO" on the media pa… Jonathan Rosenberg
- Re: [Sip] New I-D - TOTE - "INFO" on the media pa… Hadriel Kaplan
- Re: [Sip] New I-D - TOTE - "INFO" on the media pa… Jonathan Rosenberg
- Re: [Sip] New I-D - TOTE - "INFO" on the media pa… Ted Hardie
- Re: [Sip] New I-D - TOTE - "INFO" on the media pa… Jonathan Rosenberg
- Re: [Sip] New I-D - TOTE - "INFO" on the media pa… Ted Hardie
- Re: [Sip] New I-D - TOTE - "INFO" on the media pa… Jonathan Rosenberg
- Re: [Sip] New I-D - TOTE - "INFO" on the media pa… Even, Roni