Re: [Sip] TOTE - "INFO" on the media path: Comment on TCP ICE lite

Jonathan Rosenberg <jdrosen@cisco.com> Sat, 16 February 2008 15:16 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Sip] TOTE - "INFO" on the media path: Comment on TCP ICE lite
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The pending ice-tcp draft, which will be out before the non-00 deadline, 
will describe ICE-lite for tcp.

-Jonathan R.

Christer Holmberg wrote:
> 
> Hi Jonathan,
> 
> Chapter 2 of the draft says:
> 
> "All TOTE implementations support at least the lite versionof
> Interactive Connectivity Establishment (ICE) for TCP
> [I-D.ietf-mmusic-ice-tcp]."
> 
> Now, as far as I know we haven't specified any ICE lite procedures
> for TCP. ice-tcp-05 (do I read the wrong version?) also says:
> 
> "Because this specification requires multiple candidates for a media
> stream, it is not compatible with ICE's lite implementation, and can
> only be used by full implementations."
> 
> Now, different alternatives regarding this were discussed in
> Vancouver, and one of the proposals discussed was to implementing
> "TCP ICE lite" simply by removing the candidates, use the RFC 4145
> "fallback" - and specify that ICE could still be used for UDP based
> streams.
> 
> As you said, though, I guess the detailed discussion of the proposal
> belongs to MMUSIC...
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Christer
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ________________________________
> 
> From: sip-bounces@ietf.org on behalf of Jonathan Rosenberg Sent: Sat
> 16/02/2008 01:54 To: IETF SIP List Subject: [Sip] New I-D - TOTE -
> "INFO" on the media path
> 
> 
> 
> I just submitted a new I-D, which proposes a protocol called TOTE: 
> http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-rosenberg-sip-tote-00.txt
> 
> Basically, TOTE provides the ability to exchange MIME objects of any 
> type and "purpose" over a tcp/tls connection established e2e through
> SDP O/A procedures and ICE-tcp. This ties into the INFO disussion; it
>  provides the media-plane equivalent of the INFO-events framework.
> 
> This draft should arguably go in mmusic but since the INFO debate is 
> happening here I submitted it as a -sip.
> 
> Thanks, Jonathan R. -- Jonathan D. Rosenberg, Ph.D.
> 499 Thornall St. Cisco Fellow
> Edison, NJ 08837 Cisco, Voice Technology Group jdrosen@cisco.com 
> http://www.jdrosen.net <http://www.jdrosen.net/>
> PHONE: (408) 902-3084 http://www.cisco.com <http://www.cisco.com/> 
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