Re: [Sip] New I-D - TOTE - "INFO" on the media path
Dean Willis <dean.willis@softarmor.com> Sat, 16 February 2008 08:41 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Sip] New I-D - TOTE - "INFO" on the media path
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Jonathan Rosenberg wrote: > I just submitted a new I-D, which proposes a protocol called TOTE: > http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-rosenberg-sip-tote-00.txt > > Basically, TOTE provides the ability to exchange MIME objects of any > type and "purpose" over a tcp/tls connection established e2e through SDP > O/A procedures and ICE-tcp. This ties into the INFO disussion; it > provides the media-plane equivalent of the INFO-events framework. > > This draft should arguably go in mmusic but since the INFO debate is > happening here I submitted it as a -sip. Very cool draft. So with the right MIME object (octet-stream?) and Purpose token (iptunnel?), we appear to have an instant answer for the "How do we use SIP to set up a VPN connection" problem. Subject to the constraints of TCP, of course, which some people don't like. And we have a solution for the problem of establishing a device management connection with a device that's behind a NAT router. Seriously: This draft is an exact answer to the question "what is the extension model for SIP?" We very much need to come to an agreement on that model, and stop extending SIP along three different and incompatible axes. If we choose the model of TOTE, then we might start considering deprecation of INFO, MESSAGE, SUBSCRIBE, and NOTIFY. We can also probably deprecate MSRP. And PUBLISH, of course. This would really clean up the protocol suite, at least for one way of looking at it. This is a lot to think about. So start thinking! -- Dean _______________________________________________ Sip mailing list http://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sip This list is for NEW development of the core SIP Protocol Use sip-implementors@cs.columbia.edu for questions on current sip Use sipping@ietf.org for new developments on the application of sip
- [Sip] New I-D - TOTE - "INFO" on the media path Jonathan Rosenberg
- Re: [Sip] New I-D - TOTE - "INFO" on the media pa… Dean Willis
- Re: [Sip] New I-D - TOTE - "INFO" on the media pa… Christer Holmberg
- [Sip] TOTE - "INFO" on the media path: Comment on… Christer Holmberg
- Re: [Sip] New I-D - TOTE - "INFO" on the media pa… Jonathan Rosenberg
- Re: [Sip] TOTE - "INFO" on the media path: Commen… Jonathan Rosenberg
- Re: [Sip] New I-D - TOTE - "INFO" on the media pa… Ted Hardie
- Re: [Sip] New I-D - TOTE - "INFO" on the media pa… Dean Willis
- Re: [Sip] New I-D - TOTE - "INFO" on the media pa… Ted Hardie
- Re: [Sip] New I-D - TOTE - "INFO" on the media pa… Dean Willis
- Re: [Sip] New I-D - TOTE - "INFO" on the media pa… Dale.Worley
- Re: [Sip] New I-D - TOTE - "INFO" on the media pa… Jonathan Rosenberg
- Re: [Sip] New I-D - TOTE - "INFO" on the media pa… Chris Boulton
- Re: [Sip] New I-D - TOTE - "INFO" on the media pa… Hadriel Kaplan
- Re: [Sip] New I-D - TOTE - "INFO" on the media pa… Hannes Tschofenig
- Re: [Sip] New I-D - TOTE - "INFO" on the media pa… Hadriel Kaplan
- Re: [Sip] New I-D - TOTE - "INFO" on the media pa… Chris Boulton
- Re: [Sip] New I-D - TOTE - "INFO" on the media pa… Jonathan Rosenberg
- Re: [Sip] New I-D - TOTE - "INFO" on the media pa… Hadriel Kaplan
- Re: [Sip] New I-D - TOTE - "INFO" on the media pa… Jonathan Rosenberg
- Re: [Sip] New I-D - TOTE - "INFO" on the media pa… Ted Hardie
- Re: [Sip] New I-D - TOTE - "INFO" on the media pa… Jonathan Rosenberg
- Re: [Sip] New I-D - TOTE - "INFO" on the media pa… Ted Hardie
- Re: [Sip] New I-D - TOTE - "INFO" on the media pa… Jonathan Rosenberg
- Re: [Sip] New I-D - TOTE - "INFO" on the media pa… Even, Roni