Re: [Sip] WGLC for draft-ietf-sip-subnot-etags-01
Dale.Worley@comcast.net Mon, 03 March 2008 21:45 UTC
Return-Path: <sip-bounces@ietf.org>
X-Original-To: ietfarch-sip-archive@core3.amsl.com
Delivered-To: ietfarch-sip-archive@core3.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B820428C172; Mon, 3 Mar 2008 13:45:57 -0800 (PST)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -0.572
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.572 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.135, BAYES_00=-2.599, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HELO_MISMATCH_ORG=0.611, RDNS_NONE=0.1]
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id JTBMNcjkvcPo; Mon, 3 Mar 2008 13:45:56 -0800 (PST)
Received: from core3.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA6163A6E16; Mon, 3 Mar 2008 13:45:56 -0800 (PST)
X-Original-To: sip@core3.amsl.com
Delivered-To: sip@core3.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F2603A6E11 for <sip@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 3 Mar 2008 13:45:55 -0800 (PST)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id mgrq27sjDEjQ for <sip@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 3 Mar 2008 13:45:50 -0800 (PST)
Received: from QMTA01.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta01.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.16]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 465F83A6961 for <sip@ietf.org>; Mon, 3 Mar 2008 13:45:49 -0800 (PST)
Received: from OMTA09.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.20]) by QMTA01.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id wlSe1Y00F0SCNGk5100U00; Mon, 03 Mar 2008 21:45:11 +0000
Received: from dragon.ariadne.com ([76.19.174.1]) by OMTA09.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id wllb1Y00D02AVH03V00000; Mon, 03 Mar 2008 21:45:35 +0000
X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=Eb1q2IcLDU9TBzEJlQgA:9 a=m5fUAAhMH3DQ5yDE--PrdAeHtpsA:4 a=mnQxEUBslVAA:10 a=8y7tGHue6YMA:10
Received: from dragon.ariadne.com (dragon.ariadne.com [127.0.0.1]) by dragon.ariadne.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id m23LjZMj000551 for <sip@ietf.org>; Mon, 3 Mar 2008 16:45:35 -0500
Received: (from worley@localhost) by dragon.ariadne.com (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id m23LjZ2q000547; Mon, 3 Mar 2008 16:45:35 -0500
Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2008 16:45:35 -0500
Message-Id: <200803032145.m23LjZ2q000547@dragon.ariadne.com>
To: sip@ietf.org
From: Dale.Worley@comcast.net
In-reply-to: <6CBA6241-389B-493E-8B16-AD51704CC104@softarmor.com> (dean.willis@softarmor.com)
References: <5D1A7985295922448D5550C94DE2918001636AF1@DEEXC1U01.de.lucent.com> <200709181506.l8IF6Bmp007748@dragon.ariadne.com> <1203976392.6192.88.camel@localhost> <200802262131.m1QLV7Rm008476@dragon.ariadne.com> <1204099738.16881.21.camel@localhost> <200803010308.m2138gWu024969@dragon.ariadne.com> <1204465324.1597.30.camel@localhost> <6CBA6241-389B-493E-8B16-AD51704CC104@softarmor.com>
Subject: Re: [Sip] WGLC for draft-ietf-sip-subnot-etags-01
X-BeenThere: sip@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9
Precedence: list
List-Id: Session Initiation Protocol <sip.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sip>, <mailto:sip-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Post: <mailto:sip@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:sip-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sip>, <mailto:sip-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Sender: sip-bounces@ietf.org
Errors-To: sip-bounces@ietf.org
From: Dean Willis <dean.willis@softarmor.com> I have yet to figure out how a multiuser UA (including an event server) is supposed to function if: 1) The To: field does not indicate the user being targeted, which happens if a UAC-side proxy retargets, as in the case of a speed-dial service, and 2) The request-URI does not indicate the user being targeted, which happens in many cases including when the UAS-side proxy does contact- routing AND the user-part of the contact isn't differentiated per- user. It also occurs with some load-balancers. That's part of why we don't specify bulk registration in RFC 3261, but instead recommend using routing table entries. This has been a known problem for ages -- a UA should register different contacts for different AORs, so when a request comes in it knows which AOR (which "line appearance") the request concerns. I wrote this in Oct. 2005 (draft-worley-sip-gruu-implement-00), and it was old information then: As detailed below, when responding to requests, the UA should use the GRUU associated with the AOR through which the request was routed to the UA. In order to ensure that the UA can determine this, it should register distinct URIs for each AOR it services. (The From header may contain a different AOR which was routed to one of the UA's AORs, and so can not be depended on to provide the AOR through which the request was routed to the UA.) Guideline: The UA should register distinct URIs for each AOR it services. (Note that it is not sufficient to generate from each AOR a contact 'sip:{user-part}@{IP-address}', since it is common for a UA to service two AORs with the same user part in different domains.) Dale _______________________________________________ Sip mailing list https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sip This list is for NEW development of the core SIP Protocol Use sip-implementors@cs.columbia.edu for questions on current sip Use sipping@ietf.org for new developments on the application of sip
- [Sip] WGLC for draft-ietf-sip-subnot-etags-01 DRAGE, Keith (Keith)
- Re: [Sip] WGLC for draft-ietf-sip-subnot-etags-01 Dale.Worley
- RE: [Sip] WGLC for draft-ietf-sip-subnot-etags-01 DRAGE, Keith (Keith)
- [Sip] Outbound-10 comments Jerry Yin
- RE: [Sip] WGLC for draft-ietf-sip-subnot-etags-01 DRAGE, Keith (Keith)
- Re: [Sip] Outbound-10 comments peter_blatherwick
- Re: [Sip] Outbound-10 comments sergiole
- RE: [Sip] WGLC for draft-ietf-sip-subnot-etags-01 DRAGE, Keith (Keith)
- RE: [Sip] WGLC for draft-ietf-sip-subnot-etags-01 Brian Rosen
- Re: [Sip] Outbound-10 comments Rohan Mahy
- Re: [Sip] Outbound-10 comments Rohan Mahy
- Re: [Sip] Outbound-10 comments peter_blatherwick
- Re: [Sip] WGLC for draft-ietf-sip-subnot-etags-01 Aki Niemi
- Re: [Sip] WGLC for draft-ietf-sip-subnot-etags-01 Dale.Worley
- Re: [Sip] WGLC for draft-ietf-sip-subnot-etags-01 Aki Niemi
- Re: [Sip] WGLC for draft-ietf-sip-subnot-etags-01 Dean Willis
- Re: [Sip] WGLC for draft-ietf-sip-subnot-etags-01 Aki Niemi
- Re: [Sip] WGLC for draft-ietf-sip-subnot-etags-01 Dale.Worley
- Re: [Sip] WGLC for draft-ietf-sip-subnot-etags-01 Dale.Worley
- Re: [Sip] WGLC for draft-ietf-sip-subnot-etags-01 Aki Niemi
- Re: [Sip] WGLC for draft-ietf-sip-subnot-etags-01 Dean Willis
- Re: [Sip] WGLC for draft-ietf-sip-subnot-etags-01 Dale.Worley
- Re: [Sip] WGLC for draft-ietf-sip-subnot-etags-01 Dale.Worley