Re: [Sip] Open Issue #7: CANCEL for non-INVITE
Shail Bhatnagar <shbhatna@cisco.com> Thu, 23 August 2001 19:39 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Sip] Open Issue #7: CANCEL for non-INVITE
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Kim Liu wrote: My take is that although CANCEL for non-INVITE is academic, it should be allowed. Main reason is to not make special checks in the state machine about original method and this CANCEL. > > Limit CANCEL for INVITE only. Trying to handle CANCELs > for all/arbitrary methods otherwise is going to be prohibitively > complex task -- it will end up as a bunch of special > cases -- i.e. if CANCEL is allowed for all methods, > how do you treat a CANCEL for a CANCEL? A CANCEL for > a BYE? A CANCEL for an ACK? That's ridiculous -- > you automatically end up with more special cases for > handling CANCEL to handle CANCELs for methods where > CANCEL makes no sense. > > It's a case of confusing an application specific > signal (trying to stop a service/application started > by another method) with a generic procotol level > signal (CANCEL). Since only INVITE and BYE can > start/change/stop a call, every other method almost > has to be an application or service specific > invocation, rather than session affecting -- if > this assumption is made, then CANCEL, as a session > level signal, is not apropriate for halting a > service. > > Kim > > _______________________________________________ > Sip mailing list http://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sip > This list is for NEW development of the core SIP Protocol > Use sip-implementors@cs.columbia.edu for questions on current sip > Use sipping@ietf.org for new developments on the application of sip _______________________________________________ Sip mailing list http://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sip This list is for NEW development of the core SIP Protocol Use sip-implementors@cs.columbia.edu for questions on current sip Use sipping@ietf.org for new developments on the application of sip
- [Sip] Open Issue #7: CANCEL for non-INVITE Jonathan Rosenberg
- RE: [Sip] Open Issue #7: CANCEL for non-INVITE Rosen, Brian
- Re: [Sip] Open Issue #7: CANCEL for non-INVITE Vijay Gurbani
- Re: [Sip] Open Issue #7: CANCEL for non-INVITE Kim Liu
- Re: [Sip] Open Issue #7: CANCEL for non-INVITE Shail Bhatnagar
- Re: [Sip] Open Issue #7: CANCEL for non-INVITE Kim Liu
- RE: [Sip] Open Issue #7: CANCEL for non-INVITE Jonathan Rosenberg
- RE: [Sip] Open Issue #7: CANCEL for non-INVITE Brett Tate
- RE: [Sip] Open Issue #7: CANCEL for non-INVITE Drage, Keith (Keith)
- [Sip] Open Issue #7: CANCEL for non-INVITE Henning G. Schulzrinne
- RE: [Sip] Open Issue #7: CANCEL for non-INVITE Jonathan Rosenberg
- Re: [Sip] Open Issue #7: CANCEL for non-INVITE Christer Holmberg
- Re: [Sip] Open Issue #7: CANCEL for non-INVITE Henning Schulzrinne
- Re: [Sip] Open Issue #7: CANCEL for non-INVITE Rohan Mahy
- Re: [Sip] Open Issue #7: CANCEL for non-INVITE Suheel Hussain
- Re: [Sip] Open Issue #7: CANCEL for non-INVITE Bob Penfield
- RE: [Sip] Open Issue #7: CANCEL for non-INVITE Drage, Keith (Keith)
- RE: [Sip] Open Issue #7: CANCEL for non-INVITE Robert Sparks
- RE: [Sip] Open Issue #7: CANCEL for non-INVITE Drage, Keith (Keith)
- RE: [Sip] Open Issue #7: CANCEL for non-INVITE Robert Sparks
- RE: [Sip] Open Issue #7: CANCEL for non-INVITE Jonathan Rosenberg
- Re: [Sip] Open Issue #7: CANCEL for non-INVITE Christer Holmberg
- Re: [Sip] Open Issue #7: CANCEL for non-INVITE Henning G. Schulzrinne
- Re: [Sip] Open Issue #7: CANCEL for non-INVITE Henning G. Schulzrinne
- Re: [Sip] Open Issue #7: CANCEL for non-INVITE Gonzalo Camarillo
- Re: [Sip] Open Issue #7: CANCEL for non-INVITE Anders Kristensen
- RE: [Sip] Open Issue #7: CANCEL for non-INVITE James Undery
- Re: [Sip] Open Issue #7: CANCEL for non-INVITE Henning G. Schulzrinne
- Re: [Sip] Open Issue #7: CANCEL for non-INVITE Bob Penfield
- RE: [Sip] Open Issue #7: CANCEL for non-INVITE Drage, Keith (Keith)
- Re: [Sip] Open Issue #7: CANCEL for non-INVITE Christer Holmberg
- RE: [Sip] Open Issue #7: CANCEL for non-INVITE Jonathan Rosenberg
- Re: [Sip] Open Issue #7: CANCEL for non-INVITE Bob Penfield
- RE: [Sip] Open Issue #7: CANCEL for non-INVITE James Undery
- RE: [Sip] Open Issue #7: CANCEL for non-INVITE Jo Hornsby
- Re: [Sip] Open Issue #7: CANCEL for non-INVITE Henning Schulzrinne
- RE: [Sip] Open Issue #7: CANCEL for non-INVITE Drage, Keith (Keith)