Re: [sipcore] draft-jesske-update-p-visited-network-07.txt

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From: "Charles Eckel (eckelcu)" <eckelcu@cisco.com>
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I have read the draft and am in favor of the working group adopting it for the purpose outlined by the chairs.

As a result of my review of the draft, I have some suggestions for a future version of draft-ietf-sipcore-rfc7976bis, if adopted.

Title
Change to match RFC 7976.

Abstract
s/This document updates ,/This document updates RFC 7315,
s/affected/identified

Section 2.2
s/Modify stement that P-Visited-Network-ID header field can appear in all responses exept for 100 (Trying)./Modify statement to include that P-Visited-Network-ID header field can appear in all responses except 100 (Trying).

Section 3
s/The P-Visited-Network-ID header field can appear in all SIP methods except ACK, BYE, CANCEL, NOTIFY, PRACK, INFO, UPDATE and in any SIP Response message, except for a 100 (Trying)./
The P-Visited-Network-ID header field can appear in all SIP methods except ACK, BYE, CANCEL, NOTIFY, PRACK, INFO, and UPDATE, and in any SIP Response message, except 100 (Trying).

I think the sentence, "The P-Visited-Network-ID header field is not needed in the 100 (Trying) responses, since they are transmitted hop by hop, not end to end.", should probably be removed. This section does not provide justifications for any of the other restrictions, so providing it for this one case seems odd. If the sentence is to remain, I suggest updating it to reads as follows, "The P-Visited-Network-ID header field is not useful in 100 (Trying) responses since they are transmitted hop by hop, not end to end.”

Cheers,
Charles

On Jan 3, 2024, at 5:05 PM, Brian Rosen <br@brianrosen.net> wrote:

<As chair>
This message starts a two week call for adoption of the draft, with the intention that it will be reworked as needed and re-named to rfc7976bis.  Please send comments to the list.

Roland, assuming the WG agrees to adopt the draft, we will ask you to submit it as draft-ietf-sipcore-rfc7976bis-00.  We will also ask you to make sure that the errata identified in 7976 are addressed.  The data tracker will note the prior versions correctly once we set it up.

Brian

On Dec 29, 2023, at 4:17 AM, R.Jesske@telekom.de wrote:

Dear all,
I have uploaded a new version.

URL:      https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-jesske-update-p-visited-network-07.txt
Status:   https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-jesske-update-p-visited-network/
HTMLized: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-jesske-update-p-visited-network
Diff:     https://author-tools.ietf.org/iddiff?url2=draft-jesske-update-p-visited-network-07

Of course comments are welcome.

The main change to the RFC7976 is that P-Visited-Network-ID header field can appear in all responses except for 100 (Trying).

As commented during the WGLC it was proposed to change the behaviour from UPDATE to an BIS draft.

Since there are no objections from people could I get some advice from the SIPCORE chair if I can now create an sipcore RFC7976bis draft, to start the official procedure to go forward to an RFC or is there another procedure seen?

Thank you and Best Regards

Roland

Von: Charles Eckel (eckelcu) <eckelcu@cisco.com<mailto:eckelcu@cisco.com>>
Gesendet: Freitag, 3. November 2023 16:08
An: Jesske, Roland <R.Jesske@telekom.de<mailto:R.Jesske@telekom.de>>
Cc: sipcore@ietf.org<mailto:sipcore@ietf.org>
Betreff: Re: [sipcore] Working Group Last Call draft-jesske-update-p-visited-network-03.txt

Hi Roland,

Not hearing any objections, that seems a good way to proceed.

Cheers,
Charles


On Oct 24, 2023, at 9:03 AM, R.Jesske@telekom.de<mailto:R.Jesske@telekom.de> wrote:

Hi Charles,
Thank you for binging this up.
It was the proposal to change then the naming to an rfc7976_bis and I have provided an Update https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-jesske-update-p-visited-network/ in Summer to use the RFC7976 as baseline.

The proposal was discussed to change it to an rfc7976_bis and I saw some agreement but not a final decision.

If people are happy with that approach then I recheck the draft and could provide this draft as an bis draft.

Best Regards

Roland
Von: sipcore <sipcore-bounces@ietf.org<mailto:sipcore-bounces@ietf.org>> Im Auftrag von Charles Eckel (eckelcu)
Gesendet: Montag, 23. Oktober 2023 23:41
An: sipcore@ietf.org<mailto:sipcore@ietf.org>
Betreff: Re: [sipcore] Working Group Last Call draft-jesske-update-p-visited-network-03.txt

Apologies for reviving an old thread, but draft-jesske-update-p-visited-network came up in our dependencies discussion during the IETF-3GPP coordination call today [1] and I wanted to check on next steps.

We are putting together the agenda for the IETF-3GPP coordination meeting at IETF 118 and could allocate some time for a discussion on this draft in that forum if it would be helpful.

Cheers,
Charles

[1] https://datatracker.ietf.org/iabasg/ietf3gpp/meetings/

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