Re: [Sipping] Re: draft-rosenberg-sipping-overload-reqs recovery
"Spencer Dawkins" <spencer@mcsr-labs.org> Mon, 06 November 2006 22:35 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Sipping] Re: draft-rosenberg-sipping-overload-reqs recovery
Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2006 14:32:55 -0800
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Hi, Jonathan, From: "Jonathan Rosenberg" <jdrosen@cisco.com> > > Cullen Jennings wrote: > >> >> A possible additional requirement.... >> >> Imagine a system (perhaps a single proxy) that could do 100cps. It is in >> steady state doing 80cps with very few retransmission. Then for 5 >> minutes the incoming requests goes to 500cps then drops back to an >> incoming call rate of 80cps. The question is, how long before the system >> gets back to the state where it if is successfully processing all the >> 80cps? > > As soon as it can. Are you suggesting a requirement here? Seems like this > is an implementation thing and wouldn't impact any protocol mechanisms. > >> >> I have seen systems that never recover - that is bad. I think one of the >> design goals is that it is at least possible to build to systems that >> recover back to steady state relatively quickly after an overload >> impulse. > > Sure; but I'm not sure I see the protocol requirement. I may have read too much into Cullen's note, but what *I* thought was being discussed was a "net" incoming rate of 500 cps, and what I thought Cullen was saying was that when the "net" incoming rate drops back to 80 cps, the system should not continue to present a "gross" (new requests + retransmitted requests) incoming rate of 500 cps for a very long time. That seemed more of a protocol requirement than just saying "please don't fall over and not get up". Thanks, Spencer _______________________________________________ Sipping mailing list https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sipping This list is for NEW development of the application of SIP Use sip-implementors@cs.columbia.edu for questions on current sip Use sip@ietf.org for new developments of core SIP
- [Sipping] draft-rosenberg-sipping-overload-reqs r… Cullen Jennings
- RE: [Sipping] draft-rosenberg-sipping-overload-re… Poretsky, Scott
- [Sipping] Re: draft-rosenberg-sipping-overload-re… Jonathan Rosenberg
- Re: [Sipping] Re: draft-rosenberg-sipping-overloa… Spencer Dawkins
- [Sipping] Re: draft-rosenberg-sipping-overload-re… Cullen Jennings
- Re: [Sipping] Re: draft-rosenberg-sipping-overloa… Volker Hilt
- RE: [Sipping] Re: draft-rosenberg-sipping-overloa… Jean-Francois Mule
- RE: [Sipping] Re: draft-rosenberg-sipping-overloa… Janet P Gunn
- RE: [Sipping] Re: draft-rosenberg-sipping-overloa… Michael Hammer (mhammer)
- RE: [Sipping] Re: draft-rosenberg-sipping-overloa… Michael Hammer (mhammer)
- Re: [Sipping] Re: draft-rosenberg-sipping-overloa… Albrecht.Schwarz
- [Sipping] SIP Malformed messages SUNIL J. KUMAR
- RE: [Sipping] SIP Malformed messages Geneiatakis Dimitris
- RE: [Sipping] SIP Malformed messages Gaurav Kheterpal
- Re: [Sipping] Re: draft-rosenberg-sipping-overloa… Jonathan Rosenberg
- [Sipping] proxy in DMZ while B2BUA as an ALG SUNIL J. KUMAR
- Re: [Sipping] Re: draft-rosenberg-sipping-overloa… Volker Hilt
- Re: [Sipping] Re: draft-rosenberg-sipping-overloa… Albrecht.Schwarz
- RE: [Sipping] Re: draft-rosenberg-sipping-overloa… Dolly, Martin C, ALABS
- RE: [Sipping] Re: draft-rosenberg-sipping-overloa… Widjaja, Indra (Indra)
- RE: [Sipping] Re: draft-rosenberg-sipping-overloa… Albrecht.Schwarz
- Re: [Sipping] Re: draft-rosenberg-sipping-overloa… Cullen Jennings