[Sipping] Re: draft-rosenberg-sipping-overload-reqs recovery
Cullen Jennings <fluffy@cisco.com> Wed, 08 November 2006 03:11 UTC
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Subject: [Sipping] Re: draft-rosenberg-sipping-overload-reqs recovery
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Clearly this was a long way from the text for a requirement but, yes, I was proposing that this be added as one of the requirements. I don't feel strongly about this and if we can't figure out how to express this as a requirement that is useful, I can certainly live with not adding it. The reason I think it is a requirement is I can easily imagine that the mechanism for doing overload push-back causes the systems to fail in the way I described below (i.e. never recover back to steady state). On Nov 6, 2006, at 11:17 AM, Jonathan Rosenberg wrote: > > > Cullen Jennings wrote: > >> A possible additional requirement.... >> Imagine a system (perhaps a single proxy) that could do 100cps. It >> is in steady state doing 80cps with very few retransmission. Then >> for 5 minutes the incoming requests goes to 500cps then drops >> back to an incoming call rate of 80cps. The question is, how long >> before the system gets back to the state where it if is >> successfully processing all the 80cps? > > As soon as it can. Are you suggesting a requirement here? Seems > like this is an implementation thing and wouldn't impact any > protocol mechanisms. > >> I have seen systems that never recover - that is bad. I think one >> of the design goals is that it is at least possible to build to >> systems that recover back to steady state relatively quickly >> after an overload impulse. > > Sure; but I'm not sure I see the protocol requirement. > > -Jonathan R. > > > > -- > Jonathan D. Rosenberg, Ph.D. 600 Lanidex Plaza > Cisco Fellow Parsippany, NJ > 07054-2711 > Cisco Systems > jdrosen@cisco.com FAX: (973) 952-5050 > http://www.jdrosen.net PHONE: (973) 952-5000 > http://www.cisco.com _______________________________________________ Sipping mailing list https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sipping This list is for NEW development of the application of SIP Use sip-implementors@cs.columbia.edu for questions on current sip Use sip@ietf.org for new developments of core SIP
- [Sipping] draft-rosenberg-sipping-overload-reqs r… Cullen Jennings
- RE: [Sipping] draft-rosenberg-sipping-overload-re… Poretsky, Scott
- [Sipping] Re: draft-rosenberg-sipping-overload-re… Jonathan Rosenberg
- Re: [Sipping] Re: draft-rosenberg-sipping-overloa… Spencer Dawkins
- [Sipping] Re: draft-rosenberg-sipping-overload-re… Cullen Jennings
- Re: [Sipping] Re: draft-rosenberg-sipping-overloa… Volker Hilt
- RE: [Sipping] Re: draft-rosenberg-sipping-overloa… Jean-Francois Mule
- RE: [Sipping] Re: draft-rosenberg-sipping-overloa… Janet P Gunn
- RE: [Sipping] Re: draft-rosenberg-sipping-overloa… Michael Hammer (mhammer)
- RE: [Sipping] Re: draft-rosenberg-sipping-overloa… Michael Hammer (mhammer)
- Re: [Sipping] Re: draft-rosenberg-sipping-overloa… Albrecht.Schwarz
- [Sipping] SIP Malformed messages SUNIL J. KUMAR
- RE: [Sipping] SIP Malformed messages Geneiatakis Dimitris
- RE: [Sipping] SIP Malformed messages Gaurav Kheterpal
- Re: [Sipping] Re: draft-rosenberg-sipping-overloa… Jonathan Rosenberg
- [Sipping] proxy in DMZ while B2BUA as an ALG SUNIL J. KUMAR
- Re: [Sipping] Re: draft-rosenberg-sipping-overloa… Volker Hilt
- Re: [Sipping] Re: draft-rosenberg-sipping-overloa… Albrecht.Schwarz
- RE: [Sipping] Re: draft-rosenberg-sipping-overloa… Dolly, Martin C, ALABS
- RE: [Sipping] Re: draft-rosenberg-sipping-overloa… Widjaja, Indra (Indra)
- RE: [Sipping] Re: draft-rosenberg-sipping-overloa… Albrecht.Schwarz
- Re: [Sipping] Re: draft-rosenberg-sipping-overloa… Cullen Jennings