Re: [lamps] Proposed charter update regarding clarifications

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From: "Brockhaus, Hendrik" <hendrik.brockhaus@siemens.com>
To: Russ Housley <housley@vigilsec.com>, LAMPS WG <spasm@ietf.org>
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Subject: Re: [lamps] Proposed charter update regarding clarifications
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I would be happy with the current text. But I guess there will be the need for many updates at least with regard to support of upcoming crypto algorithms. Therefore the new text will ease the processes.
Finally it will be a trade-off between administrative overhead vs. risk of 'pointless paper'. Finally I am with Stephen, that nothing should be done without people willing to implement it.

Hendrik

> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: Spasm <spasm-bounces@ietf.org> Im Auftrag von Russ Housley
> Gesendet: Samstag, 27. Juli 2019 13:40
> An: LAMPS WG <spasm@ietf.org>
> Betreff: [lamps] Proposed charter update regarding clarifications
> 
> At the meeting in Montreal, we suggested a charter update to allow
> clarifications.  I suggest:
> 
> OLD:
> 
> In addition, the LAMPS WG may investigate other updates to documents
> produced by the PKIX and S/MIME WGs, but the LAMPS WG shall not adopt
> any of these potential work items without rechartering.
> 
> NEW:
> 
> In addition, the LAMPS WG may investigate other updates to documents
> produced by the PKIX and S/MIME WG. The LAMPS WG may produce
> clarifications where needed, but the LAMPS WG shall not adopt anything
> beyond clarifications without rechartering.
> 
> Thoughts?
> 
> Russ
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