Re: [tcpm] working group status 11/17/09

[Lars Eggert <[e-mail]>]

Hi,

without wearing any hats: if it can be added very quickly, i.e., O(days), I'd be mildly in favor. Otherwise, let's just ship what we have now.

Lars

On 2009-11-23, at 20:17, Eddy, Wesley M. (GRC-MS00)[ASRC AEROSPACE CORP] wrote:

> draft-touch-tcp-ao-nat should definitely be on the list;
> thanks for the reminder :).
> 
> So far, there have been a couple of people that said they'd
> support this as part of AO, but not very many.  I haven't
> seen anything indicating there are people against it yet
> either ... it would be good to hear what more people think
> about this as part of the AO WGLC that's in-progress.  If
> there's reasonable support, it sounds like Joe is willing
> to roll it into the AO draft after WGLC.
> 
> --
> Wes Eddy
> MTI Systems
> 
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Gregory Lebovitz [mailto:[e-mail]]
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 4:54 PM
>> To: Eddy, Wesley M. (GRC-MS00)[ASRC AEROSPACE CORP]; Joe Touch
>> Cc: [e-mail]
>> Subject: Re: [tcpm] working group status 11/17/09
>> 
>> should we also list here the current draft on NAT-Traversal for TCP-AO?
>> It's not a WG item, but it is being done as a possible (likely?) textual
>> addition to a WG item. comment?
>> 
>> Gregory.
>> 
>> 
>> On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 6:23 AM, Eddy, Wesley M. (GRC-MS00)[ASRC
>> AEROSPACE CORP] <[e-mail]> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 	Hello; since TCPM didn't meet in Hiroshima, but we do have
>> 	several documents in the process of being finished up, and
>> 	a couple others in the process of starting, here's a quick
>> 	snapshot of the TCPM working group status and the actions
>> 	needed on each document; please let us know if we left
>> 	anything out:
>> 
>> 
>> 	Active WG Items
>> 	===============
>> 
>> 	TCP Authentication Option
>> 	http://www.ietf.org/id/draft-ietf-tcpm-tcp-auth-opt-08.txt
>> 	Milestone Target: Proposed Standard in April 2009
>> 	Action: In WGLC until 11/24/09
>> 
>> 	TCP Authentication Option Crypto
>> 	http://www.ietf.org/id/draft-ietf-tcpm-tcp-ao-crypto-01.txt
>> 	Milestone Target: Proposed Standard with AO spec
>> 	Action: In WGLC until 11/24/09
>> 
>> 	ICMP Attacks
>> 	http://www.ietf.org/id/draft-ietf-tcpm-icmp-attacks-06.txt
>> 	Milestone Target: Informational in July 2009
>> 	Action: WGLC started 9/1, ended 9/15 ... Fernando Gont to update
>> based on WGLC
>> 
>> 	Early-Retransmit
>> 	http://www.ietf.org/id/draft-ietf-tcpm-early-rexmt-02.txt
>> 	Milestone Target: Experimental in July 2009
>> 	Action: WGLC finished & authors updated (action with chairs to
>> forward to IESG)
>> 
>> 	1323bis
>> 	http://www.ietf.org/id/draft-ietf-tcpm-1323bis-01.txt
>> 	Milestone Target: Proposed Standard in July 2009
>> 	Action: Revise & WGLC (action with D. Borman)
>> 
>> 	MSS Option
>> 	http://www.ietf.org/id/draft-ietf-tcpm-tcpmss-02.txt
>> 	Milestone Target: Proposed Standard in July 2009
>> 	Action: WGLC started 8/19, ended 9/8 (extended), being updated
>> based on several
>> 	       of the comments (action with D. Borman)
>> 
>> 	Urgent Pointer
>> 	http://www.ietf.org/id/draft-ietf-tcpm-urgent-data-01.txt
>> 	Milestone Target: Proposed Standard in January 2010
>> 	Action: Continue WG reviews; authors have indicated it is ready
>> for WGLC;
>> 	       planned to start WGLC after AO WGLC completes
>> 
>> 	TCP Security
>> 	http://www.ietf.org/id/draft-ietf-tcpm-tcp-security-00.txt
>> 	Milestone Target: BCP in August 2010
>> 	Action: 00-draft / outline has been under active discussion; but
>> not attained
>> 	         very clear consensus
>> 	       WG might begin working on recommendations while still
>> looking for a
>> 	         possible compromise on outline (action with Fernando
>> Gont)
>> 
>> 	Long Connectivity Disruptions
>> 	http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-zimmermann-tcp-lcd-
>> 02.txt
>> 	(need to submit WG version)
>> 	Milestone Target: Experimental in October 2010
>> 	Action: need WG to read/discuss
>> 	       authors to submit revision (action with Zimmerman)
>> 
>> 	SACK Entry
>> 	http://www.ietf.org/id/draft-ietf-tcpm-sack-recovery-entry-00.txt
>> 	Milestone Target: Proposed Standard in October 2010
>> 	Action: need WG to read/discuss
>> 	       TBD how this relates to 3517
>> 
>> 
>> 	Other Proposals
>> 	===============
>> 
>> 	Persist
>> 	http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-ananth-tcpm-persist-01.txt
>> 	Action: WG Review
>> 
>> 	Timestamps
>> 	http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-gont-tcpm-tcp-timestamps-01.txt
>> 	Action: ???
>> 
>> 	Parameter Tuning
>> 	(no I-D yet)
>> 	Action: continue good discussion on mailing list
>> 	       presentation given in Stockholm
>> 
>> 	TCP Option for Transparent Middlebox Discovery
>> 	http://www.ietf.org/id/draft-knutsen-tcpm-middlebox-discovery-
>> 03.txt
>> 	Action: Needs WG review / discussion
>> 	       discussion on mailing list has been productive
>> 
>> 	NewReno Modification
>> 	http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-nishida-newreno-
>> modification-01.txt
>> 	Action: need WG to read/discuss
>> 	       presentation given, but WG list not yet polled for adoption
>> 
>> 	Recent discussions opened on Rate-Halving
>> 	http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-mathis-tcp-ratehalving-00.txt
>> 	Action: mailing list discussion about the history of this, and
>> whether
>> 	       it needs to be revived
>> 
>> 	--
>> 	Wes Eddy
>> 	MTI Systems
>> 
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