Re: [tcpm] working group status 11/17/09

Joe Touch <touch@ISI.EDU> Mon, 23 November 2009 18:59 UTC

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Lars Eggert wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> without wearing any hats: if it can be added very quickly, i.e.,
> O(days), I'd be mildly in favor. Otherwise, let's just ship what we have
> now.

Once/if I get a go-ahead, that's all it'd take. There isn't much to it.

Joe


> On 2009-11-23, at 20:17, Eddy, Wesley M. (GRC-MS00)[ASRC AEROSPACE CORP] wrote:
> 
>> draft-touch-tcp-ao-nat should definitely be on the list;
>> thanks for the reminder :).
>>
>> So far, there have been a couple of people that said they'd
>> support this as part of AO, but not very many.  I haven't
>> seen anything indicating there are people against it yet
>> either ... it would be good to hear what more people think
>> about this as part of the AO WGLC that's in-progress.  If
>> there's reasonable support, it sounds like Joe is willing
>> to roll it into the AO draft after WGLC.
>>
>> --
>> Wes Eddy
>> MTI Systems
>>
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Gregory Lebovitz [mailto:gregory.ietf@gmail.com]
>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 4:54 PM
>>> To: Eddy, Wesley M. (GRC-MS00)[ASRC AEROSPACE CORP]; Joe Touch
>>> Cc: tcpm@ietf.org
>>> Subject: Re: [tcpm] working group status 11/17/09
>>>
>>> should we also list here the current draft on NAT-Traversal for TCP-AO?
>>> It's not a WG item, but it is being done as a possible (likely?) textual
>>> addition to a WG item. comment?
>>>
>>> Gregory.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 6:23 AM, Eddy, Wesley M. (GRC-MS00)[ASRC
>>> AEROSPACE CORP] <wesley.m.eddy@nasa.gov> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> 	Hello; since TCPM didn't meet in Hiroshima, but we do have
>>> 	several documents in the process of being finished up, and
>>> 	a couple others in the process of starting, here's a quick
>>> 	snapshot of the TCPM working group status and the actions
>>> 	needed on each document; please let us know if we left
>>> 	anything out:
>>>
>>>
>>> 	Active WG Items
>>> 	===============
>>>
>>> 	TCP Authentication Option
>>> 	http://www.ietf.org/id/draft-ietf-tcpm-tcp-auth-opt-08.txt
>>> 	Milestone Target: Proposed Standard in April 2009
>>> 	Action: In WGLC until 11/24/09
>>>
>>> 	TCP Authentication Option Crypto
>>> 	http://www.ietf.org/id/draft-ietf-tcpm-tcp-ao-crypto-01.txt
>>> 	Milestone Target: Proposed Standard with AO spec
>>> 	Action: In WGLC until 11/24/09
>>>
>>> 	ICMP Attacks
>>> 	http://www.ietf.org/id/draft-ietf-tcpm-icmp-attacks-06.txt
>>> 	Milestone Target: Informational in July 2009
>>> 	Action: WGLC started 9/1, ended 9/15 ... Fernando Gont to update
>>> based on WGLC
>>>
>>> 	Early-Retransmit
>>> 	http://www.ietf.org/id/draft-ietf-tcpm-early-rexmt-02.txt
>>> 	Milestone Target: Experimental in July 2009
>>> 	Action: WGLC finished & authors updated (action with chairs to
>>> forward to IESG)
>>>
>>> 	1323bis
>>> 	http://www.ietf.org/id/draft-ietf-tcpm-1323bis-01.txt
>>> 	Milestone Target: Proposed Standard in July 2009
>>> 	Action: Revise & WGLC (action with D. Borman)
>>>
>>> 	MSS Option
>>> 	http://www.ietf.org/id/draft-ietf-tcpm-tcpmss-02.txt
>>> 	Milestone Target: Proposed Standard in July 2009
>>> 	Action: WGLC started 8/19, ended 9/8 (extended), being updated
>>> based on several
>>> 	       of the comments (action with D. Borman)
>>>
>>> 	Urgent Pointer
>>> 	http://www.ietf.org/id/draft-ietf-tcpm-urgent-data-01.txt
>>> 	Milestone Target: Proposed Standard in January 2010
>>> 	Action: Continue WG reviews; authors have indicated it is ready
>>> for WGLC;
>>> 	       planned to start WGLC after AO WGLC completes
>>>
>>> 	TCP Security
>>> 	http://www.ietf.org/id/draft-ietf-tcpm-tcp-security-00.txt
>>> 	Milestone Target: BCP in August 2010
>>> 	Action: 00-draft / outline has been under active discussion; but
>>> not attained
>>> 	         very clear consensus
>>> 	       WG might begin working on recommendations while still
>>> looking for a
>>> 	         possible compromise on outline (action with Fernando
>>> Gont)
>>>
>>> 	Long Connectivity Disruptions
>>> 	http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-zimmermann-tcp-lcd-
>>> 02.txt
>>> 	(need to submit WG version)
>>> 	Milestone Target: Experimental in October 2010
>>> 	Action: need WG to read/discuss
>>> 	       authors to submit revision (action with Zimmerman)
>>>
>>> 	SACK Entry
>>> 	http://www.ietf.org/id/draft-ietf-tcpm-sack-recovery-entry-00.txt
>>> 	Milestone Target: Proposed Standard in October 2010
>>> 	Action: need WG to read/discuss
>>> 	       TBD how this relates to 3517
>>>
>>>
>>> 	Other Proposals
>>> 	===============
>>>
>>> 	Persist
>>> 	http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-ananth-tcpm-persist-01.txt
>>> 	Action: WG Review
>>>
>>> 	Timestamps
>>> 	http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-gont-tcpm-tcp-timestamps-01.txt
>>> 	Action: ???
>>>
>>> 	Parameter Tuning
>>> 	(no I-D yet)
>>> 	Action: continue good discussion on mailing list
>>> 	       presentation given in Stockholm
>>>
>>> 	TCP Option for Transparent Middlebox Discovery
>>> 	http://www.ietf.org/id/draft-knutsen-tcpm-middlebox-discovery-
>>> 03.txt
>>> 	Action: Needs WG review / discussion
>>> 	       discussion on mailing list has been productive
>>>
>>> 	NewReno Modification
>>> 	http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-nishida-newreno-
>>> modification-01.txt
>>> 	Action: need WG to read/discuss
>>> 	       presentation given, but WG list not yet polled for adoption
>>>
>>> 	Recent discussions opened on Rate-Halving
>>> 	http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-mathis-tcp-ratehalving-00.txt
>>> 	Action: mailing list discussion about the history of this, and
>>> whether
>>> 	       it needs to be revived
>>>
>>> 	--
>>> 	Wes Eddy
>>> 	MTI Systems
>>>
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