Re: [tcpm] WGLC for UTO
Lars Eggert <lars.eggert@nokia.com> Wed, 10 October 2007 16:01 UTC
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From: Lars Eggert <lars.eggert@nokia.com>
Subject: Re: [tcpm] WGLC for UTO
Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 10:59:42 -0500
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On 2007-10-10, at 10:22, ext tcpm-bounces@ietf.org wrote: > Concern: > > Section 4.1 Middleboxes suggests that "In the future, such [stateful] > firewalls may learn to parse the TCP User Timeout Option and adapt > connection state management accordingly." Would it be worth adding > that > in this case this could become a potential security issue as it would > allow cooperative users to cause a stateful firewall to maintain > connection state for over 22 hours? Similar to how UTO is not binding for the ends (i.e., they may close a connection at any time), it is not binding for middleboxes. So these (so far purely hypothetical) middleboxes are free to time out the binding at any time, for example, if they become resource- constrained. We could make that explicit in the draft, if people feel the current text is unclear. > Nits: We'll fix these. Thanks, Lars
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- [tcpm] WGLC for UTO Mark Allman
- RE: [tcpm] WGLC for UTO toby.moncaster
- Re: [tcpm] WGLC for UTO Lars Eggert
- Re: [tcpm] WGLC for UTO Pasi Sarolahti
- Re: [tcpm] WGLC for UTO Mark Allman
- Re: [tcpm] WGLC for UTO Pasi Sarolahti
- Re: [tcpm] WGLC for UTO Mark Allman
- Re: [tcpm] WGLC for UTO Joe Touch
- [tcpm] Re: WGLC for UTO Mark Allman
- Re: [tcpm] WGLC for UTO Pasi Sarolahti
- Re: [tcpm] WGLC for UTO Joe Touch
- RE: [tcpm] WGLC for UTO Caitlin Bestler
- Re: [tcpm] WGLC for UTO Joe Touch
- Re: [tcpm] WGLC for UTO Brian Dickson
- Re: [tcpm] WGLC for UTO Lars Eggert
- Re: [tcpm] WGLC for UTO Joe Touch
- RE: [tcpm] WGLC for UTO Caitlin Bestler
- Re: [tcpm] WGLC for UTO Joe Touch
- RE: [tcpm] WGLC for UTO Caitlin Bestler
- Re: [tcpm] WGLC for UTO Lars Eggert
- Re: [tcpm] WGLC for UTO Joe Touch
- RE: [tcpm] WGLC for UTO Caitlin Bestler
- Re: [tcpm] WGLC for UTO Lars Eggert
- Re: [tcpm] WGLC for UTO Lars Eggert
- Re: [tcpm] WGLC for UTO Joe Touch
- Re: [tcpm] WGLC for UTO Lars Eggert
- Re: [tcpm] WGLC for UTO Ted Faber
- Re: [tcpm] WGLC for UTO Joe Touch
- Re: [tcpm] WGLC for UTO Joe Touch
- RE: [tcpm] WGLC for UTO toby.moncaster
- Re: [tcpm] WGLC for UTO Lars Eggert
- Re: [tcpm] WGLC for UTO (fwd) Alfred Hönes
- Re: [tcpm] WGLC for UTO (fwd) Lars Eggert