Re: [Teas] [Netslices] terminology discussion network slicing
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From: Daniele Ceccarelli <daniele.ceccarelli@ericsson.com>
To: Jeff Tantsura <jefftant.ietf@gmail.com>, Greg Mirsky <gregimirsky@gmail.com>
CC: Leeyoung <leeyoung@huawei.com>, "NetSlices@ietf.org" <NetSlices@ietf.org>, "teas@ietf.org" <teas@ietf.org>
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Ciao Jeff, please see in line. Cheers Daniele From: Jeff Tantsura [mailto:jefftant.ietf@gmail.com] Sent: sabato 20 maggio 2017 08:21 To: Greg Mirsky <gregimirsky@gmail.com>; Daniele Ceccarelli <daniele.ceccarelli@ericsson.com> Cc: Leeyoung <leeyoung@huawei.com>; NetSlices@ietf.org; teas@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Teas] [Netslices] terminology discussion network slicing Hi, 1. Resources assigned to a slice are not necessarily virtual [>DC] i don’t disagree with this 2.An LSP that is used to provide transport for a service (eg L2/L3 VPN)is not necessarily TE, and that doesn't make a VPN any less a VPN [>DC] yes, this is right in theory, but if we see the slice as something with guaranteed performances (and it has to be in the 5G context), the VPN has to be bound to a TE tunnel… 3.Slice LS management is not done by IETF, YANG data modeling work is crucial to provide level of abstraction needed in multi-domain/multi-technology environment. [>DC] Agree. And I guess you are referring just to the “transport” slice, which in turn is a portion of the Network Slice.Right? In general, from ACTN prospective it is nothing different than resource allocation that meets constrains as requested by business logic. Jari and myself have done 5G/slicing introduction to IAB during this week retreat and planning to follow up with the work in that area. Cheers, Jeff
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- Re: [Teas] terminology discussion network slicing Ricard Vilalta
- Re: [Teas] terminology discussion network slicing Leeyoung
- Re: [Teas] terminology discussion network slicing Leeyoung
- Re: [Teas] terminology discussion network slicing Adrian Farrel
- Re: [Teas] terminology discussion network slicing Igor Bryskin
- Re: [Teas] terminology discussion network slicing Gert Grammel
- Re: [Teas] terminology discussion network slicing Leeyoung
- Re: [Teas] terminology discussion network slicing Leeyoung
- Re: [Teas] terminology discussion network slicing Igor Bryskin
- Re: [Teas] terminology discussion network slicing Belotti, Sergio (Nokia - IT/Vimercate)
- Re: [Teas] terminology discussion network slicing Igor Bryskin
- Re: [Teas] terminology discussion network slicing Lou Berger
- Re: [Teas] terminology discussion network slicing Leeyoung
- Re: [Teas] terminology discussion network slicing Kiran.Makhijani
- Re: [Teas] terminology discussion network slicing Leeyoung
- Re: [Teas] [Netslices] terminology discussion net… Adrian Farrel
- Re: [Teas] terminology discussion network slicing Daniele Ceccarelli
- Re: [Teas] terminology discussion network slicing Igor Bryskin
- Re: [Teas] [Netslices] terminology discussion net… Spencer Dawkins at IETF
- Re: [Teas] [Netslices] terminology discussion net… Greg Mirsky
- Re: [Teas] [Netslices] terminology discussion net… Jeff Tantsura
- [Teas] 答复: terminology discussion network slicing qiangli (D)
- [Teas] 答复: terminology discussion network slicing qiangli (D)
- Re: [Teas] terminology discussion network slicing Igor Bryskin
- Re: [Teas] [Netslices] terminology discussion net… Daniele Ceccarelli
- Re: [Teas] [Netslices] terminology discussion net… Daniele Ceccarelli
- Re: [Teas] [Netslices] terminology discussion net… Daniele Ceccarelli
- Re: [Teas] 答复: terminology discussion network sli… Daniele Ceccarelli
- Re: [Teas] terminology discussion network slicing Daniele Ceccarelli
- [Teas] 答复: terminology discussion network slicing qiangli (D)
- [Teas] 答复: terminology discussion network slicing qiangli (D)
- Re: [Teas] terminology discussion network slicing Igor Bryskin
- Re: [Teas] terminology discussion network slicing Igor Bryskin
- Re: [Teas] terminology discussion network slicing Jeff Tantsura
- Re: [Teas] [Netslices] terminology discussion net… Greg Mirsky
- Re: [Teas] terminology discussion network slicing Igor Bryskin
- Re: [Teas] terminology discussion network slicing Dongjie (Jimmy)
- Re: [Teas] [Netslices] terminology discussion net… sebastian
- Re: [Teas] [Netslices] terminology discussion net… sebastian
- Re: [Teas] [Netslices] terminology discussion net… Daniele Ceccarelli
- Re: [Teas] [Netslices] terminology discussion net… Daniele Ceccarelli
- Re: [Teas] [Netslices] terminology discussion net… Daniele Ceccarelli
- Re: [Teas] terminology discussion network slicing Daniele Ceccarelli
- Re: [Teas] [Netslices] terminology discussion net… Gert Grammel
- Re: [Teas] [Netslices] terminology discussion net… sebastian
- Re: [Teas] [Netslices] terminology discussion net… Flinck, Hannu (Nokia - FI/Espoo)
- Re: [Teas] [Netslices] terminology discussion net… Daniele Ceccarelli
- Re: [Teas] [Netslices] terminology discussion net… Daniele Ceccarelli
- Re: [Teas] [Netslices] terminology discussion net… Gert Grammel
- Re: [Teas] [Netslices] terminology discussion net… sebastian