Re: [Teas] Poll on making draft-liu-teas-yang-te-topo-01 a WG document
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Subject: Re: [Teas] Poll on making draft-liu-teas-yang-te-topo-01 a WG document
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Dieter: Thank you for answer the hierarchy question. Your abstract topologies reates arbitrary number of levels in a hierarchy. The question for the wide-topologies can be restated at Layer 3 as multiple VPNS. In IP, You can create 1-N number of VPNs. This is n-wide topologies. Does this fit into your abstract topologies? Sue From: Dieter Beller [mailto:Dieter.Beller@alcatel-lucent.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2015 8:55 AM To: Susan Hares; 'Lou Berger'; 'TEAS WG' Subject: Re: [Teas] Poll on making draft-liu-teas-yang-te-topo-01 a WG document Hi Sue, all, On 20.04.2015 07:47, Susan Hares wrote: Dieter: Do you think the arbitrary number of TE topologies are arbitrary in a hierarchy (1-N levels) or a wide topologies (1-N topologies). I am having some difficulties to really understand your question. Let me try to clarify what I meant with my comment: An abstract topology is according to my understanding composed of links and vertices (nodes) and a vertex could be an abstract node that represents an underlying abstract topology. This underlying abstract topology can be decomposed again into links and vertices (nodes) when you zoom into an abstract node. Based on this principle of recursion, you can create a hierarchy that can have arbitrary levels and a further decomposition is possible until you have not reached the physical node level (bottom of the hierarchy). I hope this helps. Thanks, Dieter Sue From: Teas [mailto:teas-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Dieter Beller Sent: Friday, April 17, 2015 3:00 PM To: Lou Berger; TEAS WG Subject: Re: [Teas] Poll on making draft-liu-teas-yang-te-topo-01 a WG document Hi Lou, all, yes/support - however, other than +1 to comments from Paul, Young, and Xian, I would like to emphasize again what I commented during the discussion in Dallas: An introduction and a description of the information model (similar to that in draft-ietf-i2rs-yang-network-topo-00) is needed in the beginning of the document that explains the YANG data model. This section would describe the relationships of the managed entities (objects) and their attributes with references to the YANG model tree structure and the model definition. Moreover, for example in the context of ACTN, the model also needs to describe how it can support an arbitrary number of TE topology hierarchies. I have seen that the current model already provides some means for that, but this should be described in more detail and some examples should be provided. Thanks, Dieter On 13.04.2015 20:08, Lou Berger wrote: All, This is start of a two week poll on making draft-liu-teas-yang-te-topo-01 a TEAS working group document. Please send email to the list indicating "yes/support" or "no/do not support". If indicating no, please state your technical reservations with the document. If yes, please also feel free to provide comments you'd like to see addressed once the document is a WG document. This document is the product of the TE Topology YANG Model Design Team and the intent is for this work to serve as the foundation for the WG's normal activities in this area, i.e., the document is the starting point for the WG -- not a finished product. The DT will be closed once we have a WG document on this topic. The poll ends Monday April 27th Thanks, Lou (and Pavan, who is a co-author) _______________________________________________ Teas mailing list Teas@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/teas _______________________________________________ Teas mailing list Teas@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/teas
- [Teas] Poll on making draft-liu-teas-yang-te-topo… Lou Berger
- Re: [Teas] Poll on making draft-liu-teas-yang-te-… Matt Hartley (mhartley)
- Re: [Teas] Poll on making draft-liu-teas-yang-te-… Adrian Farrel
- Re: [Teas] Poll on making draft-liu-teas-yang-te-… Gregory Mirsky
- Re: [Teas] Poll on making draft-liu-teas-yang-te-… Rakesh Gandhi (rgandhi)
- Re: [Teas] Poll on making draft-liu-teas-yang-te-… Santosh Esale
- Re: [Teas] Poll on making draft-liu-teas-yang-te-… Doolan, Paul (Coriant - US/Irving)
- Re: [Teas] Poll on making draft-liu-teas-yang-te-… Zhangxian (Xian)
- Re: [Teas] Poll on making draft-liu-teas-yang-te-… Huaimo Chen
- Re: [Teas] Poll on making draft-liu-teas-yang-te-… Mach Chen
- Re: [Teas] Poll on making draft-liu-teas-yang-te-… Daniele Ceccarelli
- Re: [Teas] Poll on making draft-liu-teas-yang-te-… Dongjie (Jimmy)
- Re: [Teas] Poll on making draft-liu-teas-yang-te-… Paweł Brzozowski
- Re: [Teas] Poll on making draft-liu-teas-yang-te-… Gert Grammel
- Re: [Teas] Poll on making draft-liu-teas-yang-te-… Aihua Guo
- Re: [Teas] Poll on making draft-liu-teas-yang-te-… Jeff Tantsura
- Re: [Teas] Poll on making draft-liu-teas-yang-te-… Leeyoung
- Re: [Teas] Poll on making draft-liu-teas-yang-te-… Cyril Margaria
- Re: [Teas] Poll on making draft-liu-teas-yang-te-… Dhruv Dhody
- Re: [Teas] Poll on making draft-liu-teas-yang-te-… Giovanni Martinelli (giomarti)
- Re: [Teas] Poll on making draft-liu-teas-yang-te-… Dieter Beller
- Re: [Teas] Poll on making draft-liu-teas-yang-te-… Susan Hares
- Re: [Teas] Poll on making draft-liu-teas-yang-te-… BELOTTI, SERGIO (SERGIO)
- Re: [Teas] Poll on making draft-liu-teas-yang-te-… Loa Andersson
- Re: [Teas] Poll on making draft-liu-teas-yang-te-… Dieter Beller
- Re: [Teas] Poll on making draft-liu-teas-yang-te-… Daniele Ceccarelli
- Re: [Teas] Poll on making draft-liu-teas-yang-te-… BELOTTI, SERGIO (SERGIO)
- Re: [Teas] Poll on making draft-liu-teas-yang-te-… Daniele Ceccarelli
- Re: [Teas] Poll on making draft-liu-teas-yang-te-… Susan Hares
- Re: [Teas] Poll on making draft-liu-teas-yang-te-… Susan Hares
- Re: [Teas] Poll on making draft-liu-teas-yang-te-… Susan Hares
- Re: [Teas] Poll on making draft-liu-teas-yang-te-… Dieter Beller
- Re: [Teas] Poll on making draft-liu-teas-yang-te-… Igor Bryskin
- Re: [Teas] Poll on making draft-liu-teas-yang-te-… BELOTTI, SERGIO (SERGIO)
- Re: [Teas] Poll on making draft-liu-teas-yang-te-… Fatai Zhang
- Re: [Teas] Poll on making draft-liu-teas-yang-te-… Lou Berger