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Re: [TLS] TLS@IETF101 Agenda Posted

Andrei Popov <Andrei.Popov@microsoft.com> Tue, 13 March 2018 18:27 UTC

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From: Andrei Popov <Andrei.Popov@microsoft.com>
To: Ted Lemon <mellon@fugue.com>, nalini elkins <nalini.elkins@e-dco.com>
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  *   "We" is a consortium of organizations.   I would say over 50 so far.  They operate large data centers.   They are in manufacturing, insurance, finance, and others.


  *   Nalini, why don't you (the consortium) define the standard, then?

Indeed, if a “TLS13-visibility” standard has to be defined, it would make sense for the consortium (rather than the TLS WG) to define it.

Cheers,

Andrei

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