Re: [TLS] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-tls-tls13-24

Kathleen Moriarty <kathleen.moriarty.ietf@gmail.com> Sat, 31 March 2018 01:57 UTC

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Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2018 21:57:23 -0400
Cc: Bill Frantz <frantz@pwpconsult.com>, Peter Gutmann <pgut001@cs.auckland.ac.nz>, Steve Fenter <steven.fenter58@gmail.com>, "Dale R. Worley" <worley@ariadne.com>, General Area Review Team <gen-art@ietf.org>, IETF discussion list <ietf@ietf.org>, draft-ietf-tls-tls13.all@ietf.org, "<tls@ietf.org>" <tls@ietf.org>
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Subject: Re: [TLS] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-tls-tls13-24
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> On Mar 30, 2018, at 5:20 PM, Eric Rescorla <ekr@rtfm.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi folks,
> 
> TLS 1.3 has been approved by the IESG and it's on its way to the RFC Editor, so 
> I don't really see this changing any time soon for the base RFC.
> 
> I think there's some debate about whether this is a good idea, but in any case,
> the right way to pursue it would be to publish a new draft, presumably with
> some extension that says "I speak extended alerts".
> 
I agree with Eric’s assessment, this could be in a new draft as an extension.

Kathleen 

> -Ekr
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>> On Fri, Mar 30, 2018 at 1:55 PM, Bill Frantz <frantz@pwpconsult.com> wrote:
>> On 3/30/18 at 7:35 PM, pgut001@cs.auckland.ac.nz (Peter Gutmann) wrote:
>> 
>>> As you mention, debugging TLS is unnecessarily painful if there's a problem,
>>> you typically just get a handshake-failed alert which is essentially no
>>> information at all.  Having a debug-mode capability to send back a long-form
>>> error message would be extremely useful, maybe an extension to say "send back
>>> a long-form alert with more than just 'BOOLEAN succeeded = FALSE' in it"
>