Re: [TLS] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-tls-tls13-24
Viktor Dukhovni <ietf-dane@dukhovni.org> Sat, 07 April 2018 04:49 UTC
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Subject: Re: [TLS] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-tls-tls13-24
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> On Apr 6, 2018, at 7:39 PM, Eric Rescorla <ekr@rtfm.com> wrote: > > That would depend on how you designed the feature. Because the client would have > to opt-in in any case, it could provide its locale in that opt-in message. > > I'm not saying that this (or even the feature at all) is necessarily a good idea, but > it's not like it's impossible. Yes, it is not impossible, but it is much too brittle. There's little reason (in general) to expect the server to have support for the client's locale, let alone have locale-specific translation tables for TLS errors. Numeric codes are much better if the error reasons are easily to classify in advance. Otherwise, numeric codes + UTF8 text in English. This works with enhanced status codes in SMTP, which some MUAs (Outlook) render in local languages based on the status code, but the remote postmaster will want the original text, so that's often more useful for debugging when there's a problem (and not just a wrong email address). -- Viktor.
- [TLS] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-tls-t… Dale Worley
- Re: [TLS] [Gen-art] Genart last call review of dr… Alissa Cooper
- Re: [TLS] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-t… Colm MacCárthaigh
- Re: [TLS] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-t… Ted Lemon
- Re: [TLS] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-t… Dale R. Worley
- Re: [TLS] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-t… Eric Rescorla
- Re: [TLS] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-t… David Benjamin
- Re: [TLS] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-t… Eric Rescorla
- Re: [TLS] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-t… Steve Fenter
- Re: [TLS] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-t… Peter Gutmann
- Re: [TLS] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-t… Bill Frantz
- Re: [TLS] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-t… Eric Rescorla
- Re: [TLS] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-t… Peter Gutmann
- Re: [TLS] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-t… Kathleen Moriarty
- Re: [TLS] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-t… Peter Gutmann
- Re: [TLS] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-t… Salz, Rich
- Re: [TLS] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-t… Peter Gutmann
- Re: [TLS] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-t… Salz, Rich
- Re: [TLS] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-t… Dale R. Worley
- Re: [TLS] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-t… Viktor Dukhovni
- Re: [TLS] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-t… Salz, Rich
- Re: [TLS] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-t… Stan Kalisch
- Re: [TLS] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-t… Ion Larranaga Azcue
- Re: [TLS] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-t… Viktor Dukhovni
- Re: [TLS] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-t… Stan Kalisch
- Re: [TLS] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-t… Eric Rescorla
- Re: [TLS] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-t… Viktor Dukhovni
- Re: [TLS] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-t… Salz, Rich
- Re: [TLS] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-t… Peter Gutmann
- Re: [TLS] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-t… Peter Gutmann
- Re: [TLS] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-t… Ion Larranaga Azcue
- Re: [TLS] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-t… Peter Gutmann
- Re: [TLS] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-t… Ion Larranaga Azcue
- Re: [TLS] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-t… Stan Kalisch