Re: [TLS] TLS@IETF101 Agenda Posted

Stephen Farrell <stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie> Thu, 15 March 2018 00:13 UTC

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On 15/03/18 00:05, nalini elkins wrote:
> There is no question of a smokey back room.

I'm sorry to disagree so bluntly, but while I was an
AD some of the people involved here requested that I
meet them in private to discuss this topic before it
had been raised on the list, and without telling me
ahead of time who, from what "enterprises," would be
in the room looking for what. As an AD I was always
happy to meet folks and have quiet discussions about
how to engage with the IETF or explore some detail of
how to get something done, I definitely did draw a
line well before private meetings aiming to overthrow
established WG consensus.

While that all might be put down to a tactical error
in which advice to follow with whom when initially
engaging with the IETF, from my POV it was the epitome
of a request for a smokey-back room discussion.

So yes, I do find that there are questions here about
smokey back rooms indeed.

S.