Re: [TLS] chairs - please shutdown wiretapping discussion...

Ted Lemon <mellon@fugue.com> Wed, 12 July 2017 14:38 UTC

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From: Ted Lemon <mellon@fugue.com>
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Subject: Re: [TLS] chairs - please shutdown wiretapping discussion...
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On Jul 12, 2017, at 10:32 AM, Richard Barnes <rlb@ipv.sx>; wrote:
> Oh, come on.  You've never seen code in a library that implements something that's not in an IETF RFC?  

Of course I have.   I think that putting a warning in the TLS 1.3 spec as Christian suggested will mean that the code won't appear in places where there isn't a strong use case for it.   It may well appear in places where there is a strong use case, but anything open source is going to face a stiff headwind in terms of implementing this, and that's what I'm suggesting we encourage.   If it doesn't show up in openssl, gnutls or boringssl, it's a much smaller problem.   We can't actually stop it happening—I'm just arguing for not making it convenient.