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Re: [TLS] [Ietf-honest] Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-extractor (KeyingMaterial Exporters for Transport Layer Security (TLS)) to Proposed Standard

Erick O <ericko0@yahoo.com> Fri, 18 September 2009 14:41 UTC

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Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2009 07:42:48 -0700
From: Erick O <ericko0@yahoo.com>
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From: Jeffrey A. Williams <jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com>
To: Dean Anderson <dean@av8.com>
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Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 3:26:51 PM
Subject: Re: [TLS] [Ietf-honest] Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-extractor (KeyingMaterial Exporters for Transport Layer Security (TLS)) to Proposed Standard

Dean and all,

  Good suggestion, but one that should have been obvious to the
IETF long ago.  Better late than never I suppose though...  BTW,
who's representing the IETF these days?  I am afraid I haven't kept
as current on that as well as I should have...

Dean Anderson wrote:

> On Thu, 23 Jul 2009, Matthew Campagna wrote:
>
> > Todd,
> >
> >  The official statement is the linked document, we update it from time to time.
> >
> > Regards,
> >    Matt
>
> This is a problem. The official statement is the IPR disclosure, which
> should contain the terms used by the IETF in its decision to approve the
> document. Certicom should not be able to alter the terms after the fact,
> which it seems to have just admitted doing.
>
> I think that we have to consider rejecting documents where the terms are
> not definite and/or can be altered at the whim of the patent holder.
>
>                --Dean
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