Re: [TLS] TLS@IETF101 Agenda Posted

Richard Barnes <rlb@ipv.sx> Tue, 13 March 2018 17:19 UTC

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From: Richard Barnes <rlb@ipv.sx>
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2018 13:19:52 -0400
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It would be far better if the concerned organizations could come forth
directly.  That helps the community see that there are real people who care
enough about this to engage, and will hopefully allow more direct
discussions of the problems and possible solutions.

Kudos to the US Bank guys for leading the way here.

On Tue, Mar 13, 2018 at 1:13 PM, nalini elkins <nalini.elkins@e-dco.com>;
wrote:

>
>    - >>"We" is a consortium of organizations.   I would say over 50 so
>    far.  They operate large data centers.   They are in manufacturing,
>    insurance, finance, and others.
>
>
> > See, I have a bit of a problem with that.  As you should know (since
> you are a Mentor coordinator), participation is on the basis of
> individuals, not corporations or consortia.  Right?
>
>
> Sure.  I see your point.  From now on, I will stop using the pronoun "we"
> and say "I".  Is that better?   And others can speak for themselves also.
>
>
> Nalini
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 13, 2018 at 10:09 AM, Salz, Rich <rsalz@akamai.com>; wrote:
>
>>
>>    - "We" is a consortium of organizations.   I would say over 50 so
>>    far.  They operate large data centers.   They are in manufacturing,
>>    insurance, finance, and others.
>>
>>
>>
>> See, I have a bit of a problem with that.  As you should know (since you
>> are a Mentor coordinator), participation is on the basis of individuals,
>> not corporations or consortia.  Right?
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Thanks,
> Nalini Elkins
> President
> Enterprise Data Center Operators
> www.e-dco.com
>
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