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Re: [TLS] I-D Action:draft-ietf-tls-rfc4366-bis-09.txt

Peter Gutmann <pgut001@cs.auckland.ac.nz> Thu, 17 June 2010 13:40 UTC

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=?iso-8859-1?Q?Juho_V=E4h=E4-Herttua?= <juhovh@iki.fi> writes:

>I think this sounds like a good idea. I always found it weird that TLS, since
>1.1, mentions in its documentation that encrypt-then-authenticate is best
>practice, but we just happen to use authenticate-then-encrypt and there's
>nothing you can do about it.

I've now had a couple of people express interest in this, is there some
general new-extensions draft in the works to add this to, or should I do a new
draft?  Unfortunately it's come just too late for tacking onto draft-ietf-tls-
rfc4366-bis, sigh, and it's such a trivial change that 90% of a draft for it
is going to be taken up with boilerplate.

Peter.

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