Re: [TLS] Éric Vyncke's Yes on draft-ietf-tls-oldversions-deprecate-11: (with COMMENT)

Stephen Farrell <stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie> Tue, 19 January 2021 14:28 UTC

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Hiya,

On 19/01/2021 10:23, Éric Vyncke via Datatracker wrote:
> Éric Vyncke has entered the following ballot position for
> draft-ietf-tls-oldversions-deprecate-11: Yes
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> COMMENT:
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> Thank you for the work put into this document.
> 
> Special thanks to the shepherd, Sean Turner, who did a great job to describe
> the WG consensus. Rob Wilton's point about minimum version is also important
> and should be addressed in the abstract (even if the text is clearer in section
> 1).
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> Please find below some nits.
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> I hope that this helps to improve the document,
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> Regards,
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> -éric
> 
> -- Abstract --
> "This document, if approved, formally deprecates Transport Layer" => should ",
> if approved," be removed now from the abstract? The RFC Editor will probably do
> it though.

Yep, that's standard fare so fine to leave as-is since the
RFC folks know what to do there already.

> 
> -- Section 1 --
> "deprecate these old versions." should the "these old version" be followed by
> the enumeration ?

Fair enough. I guess that snippet in isolation could be
ambiguous. Also fixed in repo - [1] with diff vs. -11
at [2]

Cheers,
S.

[1] 
https://github.com/tlswg/oldversions-deprecate/blob/master/draft-ietf-tls-oldversions-deprecate.txt
[2] 
https://tools.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url1=draft-ietf-tls-oldversions-deprecate-11.txt&url2=https://raw.githubusercontent.com/tlswg/oldversions-deprecate/master/draft-ietf-tls-oldversions-deprecate.txt

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