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Re: [TLS] Consensus call on codepoint strategy for draft-ietf-tls-hybrid-design

Loganaden Velvindron <loganaden@gmail.com> Wed, 29 March 2023 05:54 UTC

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From: Loganaden Velvindron <loganaden@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2023 09:54:12 +0400
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Subject: Re: [TLS] Consensus call on codepoint strategy for draft-ietf-tls-hybrid-design
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I hope this moves forward.

On Wed, 29 Mar 2023 at 05:50, Christopher Wood <caw@heapingbits.net> wrote:
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> As discussed during yesterday's meeting, we would like to assess consensus for moving draft-ietf-tls-hybrid-design forward with the following strategy for allocating codepoints we can use in deployments.
>
> 1. Remove codepoints from draft-ietf-tls-hybrid-design and advance this document through the process towards publication.
> 2. Write a simple -00 draft that specifies the target variant of X25519+Kyber768 with a codepoint from the standard ranges. (Bas helpfully did this for us already [1].) Once this is complete, request a codepoint from IANA using the standard procedure.
>
> The intent of this proposal is to get us a codepoint that we can deploy today without putting a "draft codepoint" in an eventual RFC.
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> Please let us know if you support this proposal by April 18, 2023. Assuming there is rough consensus, we will move forward with this proposal.
>
> Best,
> Chris, Joe, and Sean
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> [1] https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-tls-westerbaan-xyber768d00-00
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