Re: [TLS] Consensus call on codepoint strategy for draft-ietf-tls-hybrid-design

Bas Westerbaan <bas@cloudflare.com> Wed, 10 May 2023 19:09 UTC

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From: Bas Westerbaan <bas@cloudflare.com>
Date: Wed, 10 May 2023 21:09:11 +0200
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Subject: Re: [TLS] Consensus call on codepoint strategy for draft-ietf-tls-hybrid-design
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FYI IANA has added the following entry to the TLS Supported Groups registry:

Value: 25497
Description: X25519Kyber768Draft00
DTLS-OK: Y
Recommended: N
Reference: [draft-tls-westerbaan-xyber768d00-02]
Comment: Pre-standards version of Kyber768

Please see
https://www.iana.org/assignments/tls-parameters

On Mon, May 1, 2023 at 11:59 AM Christopher Wood <caw@heapingbits.net>
wrote:

> It looks like we have consensus for this strategy. We’ll work to remove
> codepoints from draft-ietf-tls-hybrid-design and then get experimental
> codepoints allocated based on draft-tls-westerbaan-xyber768d00.
>
> Best,
> Chris, for the chairs
>
> > On Mar 28, 2023, at 9:49 PM, Christopher Wood <caw@heapingbits.net>
> wrote:
> >
> > As discussed during yesterday's meeting, we would like to assess
> consensus for moving draft-ietf-tls-hybrid-design forward with the
> following strategy for allocating codepoints we can use in deployments.
> >
> > 1. Remove codepoints from draft-ietf-tls-hybrid-design and advance this
> document through the process towards publication.
> > 2. Write a simple -00 draft that specifies the target variant of
> X25519+Kyber768 with a codepoint from the standard ranges. (Bas helpfully
> did this for us already [1].) Once this is complete, request a codepoint
> from IANA using the standard procedure.
> >
> > The intent of this proposal is to get us a codepoint that we can deploy
> today without putting a "draft codepoint" in an eventual RFC.
> >
> > Please let us know if you support this proposal by April 18, 2023.
> Assuming there is rough consensus, we will move forward with this proposal.
> >
> > Best,
> > Chris, Joe, and Sean
> >
> > [1]
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-tls-westerbaan-xyber768d00-00
>
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