Re: [TLS] [Ietf-honest] Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-extractor (Keying

[Martin Rex <[e-mail]>]

Dean Anderson wrote:
> 
> On Thu, 23 Jul 2009, Matthew Campagna wrote:
> > 
> >  The official statement is the linked document, we update it from time to time. 
> 
> This is a problem. The official statement is the IPR disclosure, which
> should contain the terms used by the IETF in its decision to approve the
> document. Certicom should not be able to alter the terms after the fact,
> which it seems to have just admitted doing.

The IETF is NOT asking for an irrevocable "Grant" in an IPR disclosure.

The problem here is that submitting an URL for the real IPR disclosure
in the IETF disclosure form is subverting to idea that the IETF
can archive the IPR disclosures in their original form.


> 
> I think that we have to consider rejecting documents where the terms are
> not definite and/or can be altered at the whim of the patent holder.

Copyright terms stick to the published text or code when they're
published (under the condition they're rightfully issued).


AFAIK, License grants for patents are rarely issued as "irrevocable",
which means that the terms can be cancelled/terminated.


-Martin