Re: [TLS] draft-rhrd-tls-tls13-visibility at IETF101

Stan Kalisch <stan@glyphein.mailforce.net> Wed, 14 March 2018 04:47 UTC

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From: Stan Kalisch <stan@glyphein.mailforce.net>
Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2018 00:47:45 -0400
To: Russ Housley <housley@vigilsec.com>
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Subject: Re: [TLS] draft-rhrd-tls-tls13-visibility at IETF101
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Hi,

> On Mar 13, 2018, at 11:03 PM, Russ Housley <housley@vigilsec.com>; wrote:
> 
> Stephen:
> 
>>> I do not know if the TLS WG will want to adopt this approach.  I 
>>> would like to find out.
>> 
>> Did you read the list traffic from Oct/Nov? I have no idea how
>> you can be in doubt if you did. It's readily apparent that your
>> draft has not caused a lot of people to change their minds. Do
>> you agree? If so, then the conclusion is obvious, isn't it?
> 
> I see a handfull of very vocal people on this topic and many quiet ones.

I see at least seventeen people (This properly excludes the one recent clarification) who have articulated an opinion against what the draft proposes:

https://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/tls/current/msg25643.html


Thanks,
Stan

> I hum in the meeting is a meaningful way to find out what the quiet people are thinking.
> 
> Russ
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