Re: [TLS] Confirming consensus: TLS1.3->TLS*

Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com> Fri, 18 November 2016 22:18 UTC

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From: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2016 07:18:02 +0900
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Subject: Re: [TLS] Confirming consensus: TLS1.3->TLS*
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On 18 Nov 2016 21:10, "Peter Gutmann" <pgut001@cs.auckland.ac.nz>; wrote:
> Which is kind of odd, because the consensus on the list when it was
debated
> here a while back was to not call it 1.3.

Some of us stayed quiet for that conversation. I might speculate that it
was because it wasn't a constructive discussion.

In the end, it's just a label.