[TLS] Re: Complaint to ADs and IESG regarding TLS WG chairs falsely claiming WG consensus to issue an RFC for draft-ietf-tls-mldsa
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Hi Dr. Bernstein! A response to your appeal has been posted at https://datatracker.ietf.org/group/iesg/appeals/artifact/273. Regards, Roman Danyliw (as IETF Chair, for the IESG) -----Original Message----- From: IETF Chair <chair@ietf.org> Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2026 1:16 PM To: djb@cr.yp.to Cc: iesg@ietf.org; tls@ietf.org; last-call@ietf.org Subject: [Last-Call] Re: Complaint to ADs and IESG regarding TLS WG chairs falsely claiming WG consensus to issue an RFC for draft-ietf-tls-mldsa Warning: External Sender - do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. ==[ processing note ]== The IESG observes that the appeal text uses non-conformant notices inconsistent with the IETF policies as outlined by the IESG Statement on Clarifying Derivative Works Rights [1]. The IESG reiterates that “any process owner required to handle a Contribution with … a [non-conformant legal] notice can require the notice be removed” and that “repeated inclusion of such notices may be considered a disruption and moderated” [1]. In the interest of the community having an available appeal venue, the IESG is choosing to accept this appeal and ignore the non-conformant text. The rationales on why such notices may be disruptive as outlined in [2] [3] do not apply in this case. Unlike a WG, plenary, or non-WG lists, this request was directed to the IESG mail alias for processing. The IESG has ready access to legal counsel to review and accept the risk of such claims. [1] https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/statement-iesg-statement-on-clarifying-derivative-works-rights/ [2] https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ietf/d5tK-Ut1QZtgSaodWGC2MCgwqcw/ [3] slide #8 of the IETF 124 plenary materials, https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/124/materials/slides-124-ietf-sessc-2-ietf-124-plenary-part-2-00 ==[ processing note ]== Hi Dr. Bernstein! With this email, I am confirming that the IESG has received and accepted your appeal. Regards, Roman Danyliw (as IETF Chair, for the IESG) -----Original Message----- From: D. J. Bernstein <djb@cr.yp.to> Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2026 7:28 AM To: tls@ietf.org; stndrds-inacio@andrew.cmu.edu; debcooley1@gmail.com; iesg@ietf.org Cc: last-call@ietf.org Subject: [iesg] Complaint to ADs and IESG regarding TLS WG chairs falsely claiming WG consensus to issue an RFC for draft-ietf-tls-mldsa [snip]
- [TLS] Complaint to ADs and IESG regarding TLS WG … D. J. Bernstein
- [TLS] Re: Complaint to ADs and IESG regarding TLS… Soatok Dreamseeker
- [TLS] Re: Complaint to ADs and IESG regarding TLS… Muhammad Usama Sardar
- [TLS] Re: Complaint to ADs and IESG regarding TLS… Nadim Kobeissi
- [TLS] Re: Complaint to ADs and IESG regarding TLS… Nadim Kobeissi
- [TLS] Re: Complaint to ADs and IESG regarding TLS… Deb Cooley
- [TLS] Re: Complaint to ADs and IESG regarding TLS… Nadim Kobeissi
- [TLS] Re: Complaint to ADs and IESG regarding TLS… Simon Josefsson
- [TLS] Re: Complaint to ADs and IESG regarding TLS… Watson Ladd
- [TLS] Re: Complaint to ADs and IESG regarding TLS… Nico Williams
- [TLS] Re: Complaint to ADs and IESG regarding TLS… Watson Ladd
- [TLS] Re: Complaint to ADs and IESG regarding TLS… Nico Williams
- [TLS] Re: Complaint to ADs and IESG regarding TLS… Watson Ladd
- [TLS] Re: Complaint to ADs and IESG regarding TLS… Eric Rescorla
- [TLS] Re: Complaint to ADs and IESG regarding TLS… Eric Rescorla
- [TLS] Re: Complaint to ADs and IESG regarding TLS… Nico Williams
- [TLS] Re: Complaint to ADs and IESG regarding TLS… Martin Thomson
- [TLS] Re: Complaint to ADs and IESG regarding TLS… Nico Williams
- [TLS] Re: Complaint to ADs and IESG regarding TLS… Simon Josefsson
- [TLS] Re: Complaint to ADs and IESG regarding TLS… Ilari Liusvaara
- [TLS] Re: Complaint to ADs and IESG regarding TLS… Salz, Rich
- [TLS] Re: Complaint to ADs and IESG regarding TLS… Joseph Birr-Pixton
- [TLS] Re: Complaint to ADs and IESG regarding TLS… John Mattsson
- [TLS] Re: Complaint to ADs and IESG regarding TLS… Tibor Jager
- [TLS] Re: Complaint to ADs and IESG regarding TLS… Bas Westerbaan
- [TLS] Re: Complaint to ADs and IESG regarding TLS… Daniel Apon
- [TLS] Re: Complaint to ADs and IESG regarding TLS… Daniel Apon
- [TLS] Re: Complaint to ADs and IESG regarding TLS… IETF Chair
- [TLS] Re: Complaint to ADs and IESG regarding TLS… IETF Chair
- [TLS] Re: Complaint to ADs and IESG regarding TLS… Tibor Jager
- [TLS] Re: Complaint to ADs and IESG regarding TLS… Simon Josefsson
- [TLS] Re: Complaint to ADs and IESG regarding TLS… Daniel Apon