Re: [Tools-discuss] postconfirm
Henrik Levkowetz <henrik@levkowetz.com> Tue, 25 June 2019 00:29 UTC
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Hi Mark, Robert, On 2019-06-25 01:52, Mark Nottingham wrote: > That would really help. Could we also start the mail with something like: > > "Attention: your message has not been posted to the list yet. Please confirm your posting by..."? The body is based on a template, so easily changed. Changing the subject line has repercussions on the code, so let's see if a body change would be enough. So, the proposal is to change the body as follows: Old template text: Confirmation of list posting -- confirmation ID: $filename The ietf.org mailing-list server has received a list posting from $sender to $recipient with the subject '$[msg["subject"]]' As the sender address isn't subscribed to the list, and has not been confirmed earlier, we have to request a confirmation of the address. To confirm the address, send a message to $recipient, with the same subject line as this message. (Simply sending a 'reply' to this message should work from most email interfaces, since that usually leaves the subject line in the right form. The reply's additional "Re:" is ok.) If you do not wish your posting to the list to go through, simply disregard this message. Questions to $[conf.admin_address]. New template text: Attention: your message has not been posted to the list yet. Please confirm your posting by responding to this message: The ietf.org mailing-list server has received a list posting from $sender to $recipient with the subject '$[msg["subject"]]' As the sender address isn't subscribed to the list, and has not been confirmed earlier, we have to request a confirmation of the address. To confirm the address, send a message to $recipient, with the same subject line as this message. (Simply sending a 'reply' to this message should work from most email interfaces, since that usually leaves the subject line in the right form. The reply's additional "Re:" is ok.) If you do not wish your posting to the list to go through, simply disregard this message. Questions to $[conf.admin_address]. Does that match your proposal? Henrik > > Cheers, > > > >> On 25 Jun 2019, at 4:23 am, Robert Sparks <rjsparks@nostrum.com> wrote: >> >> Perhaps start the subject with "Action Required:" ? >> >> RjS >> >> On 6/23/19 9:28 PM, Henrik Levkowetz wrote: >>> Hi Mark, >>> >>> On 2019-06-24 03:05, Mark Nottingham wrote: >>> >>>> Hello, >>>> >>>> For the escape-workshop-pc mailing list, we had a number of >>>> submissions from non-IETF people get stuck at the confirmation stage, >>>> because people who were not familiar with postman norms didn't >>>> realise they had to respond to the confirm message. >>>> >>>> In particular, the Subject of the e-mail is "Confirm: ...", and the >>>> most prominent line is "Confirmation of list posting -- confirmation >>>> ID: ..." -- which can be read to say that THIS e-mail is confirming >>>> that posting has already occurred. >>>> >>>> Would it be possible to rewrite the confirmation message to make it >>>> more clear to busy readers that they need to act on the message? >>>> >>> Certainly. >>> >>> Do you have a proposal for the changed message? >>> >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> Henrik >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ___________________________________________________________ >>> Tools-discuss mailing list >>> >>> Tools-discuss@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss >>> >>> >>> Please report datatracker.ietf.org and mailarchive.ietf.org >>> bugs at >>> http://tools.ietf.org/tools/ietfdb >>> >>> or send email to >>> datatracker-project@ietf.org >>> >>> >>> Please report tools.ietf.org bugs at >>> >>> http://tools.ietf.org/tools/issues >>> >>> or send email to >>> webmaster@tools.ietf.org > > -- > Mark Nottingham https://www.mnot.net/ > > ___________________________________________________________ > Tools-discuss mailing list > Tools-discuss@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss > > Please report datatracker.ietf.org and mailarchive.ietf.org > bugs at http://tools.ietf.org/tools/ietfdb > or send email to datatracker-project@ietf.org > > Please report tools.ietf.org bugs at > http://tools.ietf.org/tools/issues > or send email to webmaster@tools.ietf.org >
- [Tools-discuss] postconfirm Mark Nottingham
- Re: [Tools-discuss] postconfirm Henrik Levkowetz
- Re: [Tools-discuss] postconfirm Robert Sparks
- Re: [Tools-discuss] postconfirm Mark Nottingham
- Re: [Tools-discuss] postconfirm Henrik Levkowetz
- Re: [Tools-discuss] postconfirm Robert Sparks
- Re: [Tools-discuss] postconfirm Mark Nottingham
- Re: [Tools-discuss] postconfirm Henrik Levkowetz
- Re: [Tools-discuss] postconfirm Henrik Levkowetz
- Re: [Tools-discuss] postconfirm Carsten Bormann
- Re: [Tools-discuss] postconfirm Henrik Levkowetz
- [Tools-discuss] Confirm on I-D submission (was Re… Richard Barnes
- Re: [Tools-discuss] Confirm on I-D submission (wa… Henrik Levkowetz
- Re: [Tools-discuss] Confirm on I-D submission (wa… Russ Housley
- Re: [Tools-discuss] Confirm on I-D submission (wa… Brian E Carpenter
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