Re: [tsvwg] Status of ECN encapsulation drafts (i.e., stuck)

Joseph Touch <touch@strayalpha.com> Mon, 16 March 2020 15:38 UTC

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Subject: Re: [tsvwg] Status of ECN encapsulation drafts (i.e., stuck)
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> On Mar 16, 2020, at 2:19 AM, Sebastian Moeller <moeller0@gmx.de> wrote:
> 
>> Note, these are not to be confused with suppressing propagation of DF=1 from the arriving IP header to the outer (so that a downstream router within the tunnel is allowed to fragment). In Linux, that would be: iptables -t mangle -A POSTROUTING -j DF --clear
>> 
>> So yes, I know this is often done, but I don't know how often.
> 
> 	[SM] Bigger question, should the IETF actually endorse something like that?

If you’re referring to not propagating tunnel info between inner and outer, draft-ietf-intarea-tunnels explains how these headers are and are not related.

If you’re referring to ignoring DF, we already have at least one doc that explains the hazards of that (RFC6864).

Joe