Re: [tsvwg] Adoption call for draft-white-tsvwg-l4sops - to conclude 24th March 2021
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Subject: Re: [tsvwg] Adoption call for draft-white-tsvwg-l4sops - to conclude 24th March 2021
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I'll explain my position of not taking a stance on this document. The available data suggest that L4S and conventional traffic cannot coexist safely in the same RFC3168 signaling queue, and that those queues have been deployed to some extent. I don't think this is something that operational guidance by itself can fix, and would prefer to see that addressed first. However, I'm also not sure that impeding progress on this document is helpful. In case the WG decides that there is rough consensus to proceed with known safety issues, then I'd likely be among those insisting on WGLC for this draft together with the L4S drafts. This will provide published information on what to expect, and document what issues were known by the IETF prior to approval for experiment. If the document is adopted, then I should be able to provide at least one review down the line. Pete On Tue, 2021-03-09 at 16:05 +0000, Gorry Fairhurst wrote: > TSVWG, > > The WG is running an adoption call for: > > Operational Guidance for Deployment of L4S in the Internet > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-white-tsvwg-l4sops-01 > > will end at midnight UTC on 24th March 2021. > > Please do read the draft, and send any comments/concerns to either > the > tsvwg or to the chairs <tsvwg-chairs@ietf.org>. Notes of support to > progress this work, and volunteers to review the drafts will also be > very welcome at this stage. > > Best wishes, > Gorry, Wes and David > (tsvwg co-chairs) >
- [tsvwg] Adoption call for draft-white-tsvwg-l4sop… Gorry Fairhurst
- Re: [tsvwg] Adoption call for draft-white-tsvwg-l… Bob Briscoe
- Re: [tsvwg] Adoption call for draft-white-tsvwg-l… Neal Cardwell
- Re: [tsvwg] Adoption call for draft-white-tsvwg-l… Holland, Jake
- Re: [tsvwg] Adoption call for draft-white-tsvwg-l… Smith, Kevin, Vodafone Group
- Re: [tsvwg] Adoption call for draft-white-tsvwg-l… Livingood, Jason
- Re: [tsvwg] Adoption call for draft-white-tsvwg-l… Pete Heist
- Re: [tsvwg] Adoption call for draft-white-tsvwg-l… Jonathan Morton
- Re: [tsvwg] Adoption call for draft-white-tsvwg-l… Sebastian Moeller
- Re: [tsvwg] Adoption call for draft-white-tsvwg-l… Greg White
- Re: [tsvwg] Adoption call for draft-white-tsvwg-l… Martin Duke
- Re: [tsvwg] Adoption call for draft-white-tsvwg-l… Ingemar Johansson S
- Re: [tsvwg] Adoption call for draft-white-tsvwg-l… Dave Taht
- Re: [tsvwg] Adoption call for draft-white-tsvwg-l… Gorry Fairhurst
- Re: [tsvwg] Adoption call for draft-white-tsvwg-l… Sebastian Moeller
- Re: [tsvwg] Adoption call for draft-white-tsvwg-l… Gorry Fairhurst
- Re: [tsvwg] Adoption call for draft-white-tsvwg-l… Sebastian Moeller
- Re: [tsvwg] Adoption call for draft-white-tsvwg-l… Ruediger.Geib
- Re: [tsvwg] Adoption call for draft-white-tsvwg-l… Gorry Fairhurst
- Re: [tsvwg] Adoption call for draft-white-tsvwg-l… Tilmans, Olivier (Nokia - BE/Antwerp)
- Re: [tsvwg] Adoption call for draft-white-tsvwg-l… Sebastian Moeller
- Re: [tsvwg] Adoption call for draft-white-tsvwg-l… Black, David
- Re: [tsvwg] Adoption call for draft-white-tsvwg-l… Holland, Jake
- Re: [tsvwg] Adoption call for draft-white-tsvwg-l… Jonathan Morton
- Re: [tsvwg] Adoption call for draft-white-tsvwg-l… Steven Blake
- Re: [tsvwg] Adoption call for draft-white-tsvwg-l… Bob Briscoe
- Re: [tsvwg] Adoption call for draft-white-tsvwg-l… Steven Blake
- Re: [tsvwg] Adoption call for draft-white-tsvwg-l… Bob Briscoe
- Re: [tsvwg] Adoption call for draft-white-tsvwg-l… Sebastian Moeller
- Re: [tsvwg] Adoption call for draft-white-tsvwg-l… Ingemar Johansson S
- Re: [tsvwg] Adoption call for draft-white-tsvwg-l… Sebastian Moeller
- Re: [tsvwg] Adoption call for draft-white-tsvwg-l… Bob Briscoe
- Re: [tsvwg] Adoption call for draft-white-tsvwg-l… Jonathan Morton
- Re: [tsvwg] Adoption call for draft-white-tsvwg-l… Ingemar Johansson S
- Re: [tsvwg] Adoption call for draft-white-tsvwg-l… Sebastian Moeller
- Re: [tsvwg] Adoption call for draft-white-tsvwg-l… Jonathan Morton
- Re: [tsvwg] Adoption call for draft-white-tsvwg-l… Gorry Fairhurst
- Re: [tsvwg] Adoption call for draft-white-tsvwg-l… Livingood, Jason
- Re: [tsvwg] Adoption call for draft-white-tsvwg-l… Sebastian Moeller
- Re: [tsvwg] Adoption call for draft-white-tsvwg-l… Livingood, Jason
- Re: [tsvwg] Adoption call for draft-white-tsvwg-l… Sebastian Moeller
- Re: [tsvwg] Adoption call for draft-white-tsvwg-l… Steven Blake
- Re: [tsvwg] Adoption call for draft-white-tsvwg-l… Sebastian Moeller
- Re: [tsvwg] Adoption call for draft-white-tsvwg-l… De Schepper, Koen (Nokia - BE/Antwerp)