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Re: [Tzdist] Fwd: [tzdist] #32 (service): managing historical data

Lester Caine <lester@lsces.co.uk> Thu, 11 December 2014 08:45 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Tzdist] Fwd: [tzdist] #32 (service): managing historical data
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On 11/12/14 00:13, Doug Royer wrote:
> Not all user agents store the data in UTC, many store the original event
> and VTIMEZONE and map it as needed. If you do not use the TZ they
> specify, you could show up, call, watch, whatever at technically the
> correct time, but not when they are expecting you.

Which is EXACTLY the problem that tzdist SHOULD be addressing. Just
perpetuating the current mess is simply not acceptable, and any draft
which does that should not be allowed forward.

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