Re: [urn] What is holding up the LEX URN namespace registration?

[Peter Saint-Andre <[e-mail]>]

FYI, I have just now (and finally) requested that IANA add this 
namespace to the registry.

My apologies for the delay.

Peter

On 5/3/22 9:29 AM, Peter Saint-Andre wrote:
> [ Old thread alert! ]
> 
> Please accept my apologies - I thought we had already processed this 
> request.
> 
> I will move forward on this with IANA.
> 
> Separately, I understand that the authors of draft-spinosa-urn-lex-15 
> would like to publish it as an RFC through the Independent Submissions 
> stream, so I will follow up on that, too.
> 
> Peter
> 
> On 5/24/20 9:53 AM, Dale R. Worley wrote:
>> "Hakala, Juha E" <[e-mail]> writes:
>>> The status of urn:lex request is unclear to me as well. Version 13 was
>>> published ages ago
>>> (https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-spinosa-urn-lex/) but I don't
>>> know if it addressed the concerns Dale brought up in an email sent
>>> April 30 2018. It seemed at that point that we were very close to
>>> approving the request, so it is unfortunate that the process was
>>> stalled. We should contact Enrico Francesconi and tell him what he
>>> needs to do to finish the work. He did ask us the status of the
>>> process last October, but I don't know if he got an answer.
>>
>> My latest opinion regarding the urn:lex proposal was approval on 5 June
>> 2018:
>>
>>      From: [e-mail] (Dale R. Worley)
>>      To: Enrico Francesconi <[e-mail]>
>>      Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2018 22:28:24 -0400
>>      Archived-At: 
>> <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/urn/VpshWLYPcRfqy__xqsH5wz_BO-A>
>>      Subject: Re: [urn] Moving ahead with draft-spinosa-urn-lex
>>      Cc: [e-mail], [e-mail],
>>              [e-mail], [e-mail],
>>              [e-mail], [e-mail]
>>
>>      Enrico Francesconi <[e-mail]> writes:
>>      > As for the issue you raised about the maintenance of the 
>> registry of
>>      > jurisdiction codes, we agree at this stage to be ITTIG-CNR the
>>      > Registrar. In this respect we propose the following changes:
>>
>>      The changes you propose seem satisfactory to me.
>>
>> I posted this comment on 11 Dec 2018:
>>
>>      From: [e-mail] (Dale R. Worley)
>>      To: Enrico Francesconi <[e-mail]>
>>      Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2018 22:13:13 -0500
>>      Archived-At: 
>> <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/urn/71un9dFHWjatiVVsLND0HRKiC8s>
>>      Subject: Re: [urn] Moving ahead with draft-spinosa-urn-lex
>>      Cc: [e-mail], [e-mail], 
>> [e-mail],
>>              [e-mail], [e-mail], 
>> [e-mail],
>>              [e-mail]
>>
>>      Enrico Francesconi <[e-mail]> writes:
>>      > being quite a long time since the last communication (June 
>> 2018), we
>>      > were wondering whether any action from our side is needed 
>> before to
>>      > proceed with the so called "experimental" registration of the 
>> URN:LEX
>>      > namespace.
>>
>>      Sorry, we've dropped the ball here.  As far as I can tell from 
>> reviewing
>>      the discussion at
>>      https://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/urn/current/maillist.html, 
>> we have
>>      consensus to register the namespace based on 
>> draft-spinosa-urn-lex-13,
>>      but we haven't actually notified IANA of that.  Who is it that 
>> notifies
>>      IANA?
>>
>> Then there was this message on 12 Dec 2018:
>>
>>      Subject: Re: [urn] Moving ahead with draft-spinosa-urn-lex
>>      To: Enrico Francesconi <[e-mail]>,
>>              "Dale R. Worley" <[e-mail]>
>>      Cc: Alexey Melnikov <[e-mail]>,
>>              Barry Leiba <[e-mail]>, 
>> [e-mail],
>>              [e-mail], [e-mail], [e-mail]
>>      From: Peter Saint-Andre <[e-mail]>
>>      Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2018 07:39:20 -0700
>>
>>      In my role as URN review team lead, I will contact the IANA.
>>      [quoted material deleted - DRW]
>>
>> Followed up by this on the same day:
>>
>>      To: Enrico Francesconi <[e-mail]>,
>>              "Dale R. Worley" <[e-mail]>
>>      From: Peter Saint-Andre <[e-mail]>
>>      Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2018 10:30:25 -0700
>>      Archived-At: 
>> <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/urn/z6sx-t9fCVZ5dfCKOEbIrHe6jis>
>>      Subject: Re: [urn] Moving ahead with draft-spinosa-urn-lex
>>      Cc: Barry Leiba <[e-mail]>,
>>              Alexey Melnikov <[e-mail]>, 
>> [e-mail],
>>              [e-mail], [e-mail], [e-mail]
>>
>>      Actually, I'll coordinate with Alexey, since he's the sponsoring 
>> Area
>>      Director.
>>      [quoted material deleted - DRW]
>>
>> And then this on 4 Mar 2019:
>>
>>      To: Enrico Francesconi <[e-mail]>
>>      From: Peter Saint-Andre <[e-mail]>
>>      Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2019 18:41:42 -0700
>>      Archived-At: 
>> <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/urn/2ZNAplit_W8dwQmALHh-8zLR4dk>
>>      Subject: Re: [urn] Moving ahead with draft-spinosa-urn-lex
>>      Cc: [e-mail], Alexey Melnikov <[e-mail]>,
>>              LUPO Caterina <[e-mail]>,
>>              Pierluigi Spinosa <[e-mail]>
>>
>>      As far as I know, this Internet-Draft is intended to be published 
>> as an
>>      informational RFC, in which case the IANA registration would happen
>>      through normal processes before publication. However, the 
>> datatracker
>>      page indicates that Alexey needs to follow up (specifically it 
>> appears
>>      that he needs to create the writeup for balloting by the IESG).
>>
>>      Alexey, please let us know if we're mistaken about the next steps 
>> for
>>      this registration.
>>      [quoted material deleted - DRW]
>>
>> Then I have record of a few similar messages between the review group
>> and our AD:
>> <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/urn/g8eC8QR6Lv1jmtgDT-yCApCvUIQ>
>> <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/urn/6_hLnPj9pXjM3cV-qSPGY_xkCy4>
>>
>> On 17 Oct 2019, I sent this inquiry to our AD:
>>
>>      From: [e-mail] (Dale R. Worley)
>>      To: [e-mail]
>>      Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2019 22:00:33 -0400
>>      Archived-At: 
>> <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/urn/AtoVfxYg_b7Ho-RaRGcft0CVWxg>
>>      Subject: Re: [urn] Moving ahead with draft-spinosa-urn-lex
>>      Cc: Enrico Francesconi <[e-mail]>,
>>              [e-mail], [e-mail],
>>              [e-mail], [e-mail]
>>
>>      Alexey,
>>
>>      Can you get us ([e-mail]) an update on the processing of
>>      draft-spinosa-urn-lex?
>>
>>      As far as I can tell, the URN group has been satisfied with this
>>      registration/I-D since last December, but its processing has been
>>      stalled for reasons that are obscure.
>>
>>      I understand that you are the supervising Area Director of this
>>      activity, so on behalf of the URN group, I am requesting guidance 
>> from
>>      you as to the next step for completing this work.
>>
>> After that date, I can find no record of e-mail from our AD, either to
>> me personally or the URN mailing list.
>>
>> However, checking with https://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/, I see that
>> Alexey is no longer an ART AD, which may account for why things have
>> gone awry.
>>
>> Who is responsible for the next step?
>>
>> Dale
>>
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